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Thread: How much you need to earn to buy a house in every major Canadian city

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    Posting this just for a matter of interest. Gives you a general idea anyways. Keep in mind there's variables in every case.






    By: Workopolis / Elizabeth Bromstein Special to the Star, Published on Tue Jan 06 2015

    Many say property is the best investment you can make. Bursting housing bubbles and mortgage scandals aside, they’re usually right.

    The price of making that investment varies widely in Canada, depending on where you live. We looked at how much you need to earn to buy a house in every major Canadian city.

    To get these numbers, we consulted Adrian Williams, a Toronto mortgage broker, and used his calculator found here. He explained that to calculate the income required you need to know the purchase price, down payment, rate, utilities – mortgage qualifying must include a minimum of $100 a month for heating costs – and taxes.

    We got the average purchase price per city from the Canadian Real Estate Association, and Williams provided the property tax rates. At his suggestion we used a 2.99% interest rate, which is the average qualifying rate for a 5-year fixed term. We used a down payment of 10% of the purchase price and calculated $100 a month for utilities.

    According to Williams, “Other factors that will be included with mortgage qualification are the total monthly payment obligations from credit card, LOC’s, personal & car loans, car lease and other types of credit that require a monthly payment.”

    Here is what you need to earn to buy a house in every major Canadian market. (Numbers are rounded to the nearest dollar.)

    Vancouver

    Average price: $819,336
    Monthly mortgage payment: $3,570
    Property tax: $251
    Income required: $147,023

    Calgary

    Average price: $465,047
    Mortgage mortgage payment: $2,026
    Property taxes: $236
    Income required: $88,578

    Edmonton

    Average price: $365,520
    Mortgage payment: $1,592
    Property tax: $244
    Salary required: $72,617

    Regina

    Average price: $331,161
    Monthly mortgage payment: $1,443
    Property tax: $378
    Income required: $72,028

    Saskatoon

    Average price: $349,322
    Monthly mortgage payment: $1,522
    Property tax: $366
    Income required: $74,546

    Winnipeg

    Average price: $270,605
    Monthly mortgage payment: $1,179
    Property tax: $274
    Income required: $58,235

    Ottawa

    Average price: $357,887
    Monthly mortgage payment: $1,559
    Property tax: $336
    Income required: $74,820.28

    Toronto

    Average price: $587,505
    Monthly mortgage payment: $2,560
    Property tax: $354
    Income required: $113,009

    Montreal

    Average price: $344,273
    Monthly mortgage payment: $1,500
    Property tax: $237
    Income required: $68,884

    Halifax

    Average price: $264,447
    Monthly mortgage payment: $1,152
    Property tax: $266
    Income required: $56,929

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    $100 a month for utilities is irresponsible...at least where I come from.
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    $100 for utilities, not in BC, our hydro on its own is $300 - all utilities including property tax we pay more $700 month
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    You have my sympathy Colsgirl. It really is a joke with hydro. I have one of the lowest usages I know of. (actual hydro used about $36) The "DELIVERY" charge is aprox. $70 though
    I won't tell you what I pay for heat in the winter. . . .but suffice to say it's about same as you all said and done. UGH!
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    I guess I should count myself fortunate-I looked at 2014 and we paid 272.70 per month for gas, electricity , water, garbage and recycling pickup. That would be for about 1650 sq feet and 3 people in our family. Property tax is $232 per month. Add in landline, cable and internet and we are paying 644.03 per month for all of the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie bargain View Post
    I guess I should count myself fortunate-I looked at 2014 and we paid 272.70 per month for gas, electricity , water, garbage and recycling pickup. That would be for about 1650 sq feet and 3 people in our family. Property tax is $232 per month. Add in landline, cable and internet and we are paying 644.03 per month for all of the above.

    2014 we paid $474 per month for everything (gas, electricity, water, garbage, property taxes and phone/internet). Home is 2100 sq feet. We have electric hot water heat grrr...otherwise this would be lower. I'm in BC
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    Gas makes for a lower bill generally. It also helps if you live in the city. . .more protected from lower temps. and wind.
    I live in the country, so no gas. Oil and wood are almost equivalent. I know some neighbours that pay 400 to 700 a month Jan. thru march if it's really cold and windy. Just crazy.
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    This thread just gave me another idea of what a lottery jackpot winner with $30M could do-buy real estate in every major city. Would take some effort to figure out who would be responsible for doing the regular maintenance/mail & paper pickups when the winner is not in residence.

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    Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about having never lived outside a city, but if you live in the country can't you just chop trees from your property and burn them in your fireplace/woodstove? If not to replace the gas/electric heating then at least to significantly supplement it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad View Post
    Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about having never lived outside a city, but if you live in the country can't you just chop trees from your property and burn them in your fireplace/woodstove? If not to replace the gas/electric heating then at least to significantly supplement it.
    That's a good question Brad. yes, you can BUT it takes equipment, hard work and time.

    Equipment = A good quality chainsaw, a log splitter (which can be rented) and a trailer to move the wood
    Hard work = Have to have both the time and strength to do it. Wood will also have to be moved and stacked.
    Time = once wood is cut it has to dry in wind and sun preferably one year at least.

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    That sounds like a great way to work out and not to mention lots of fun! I'm not seeing a down side.

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    You also needs lot of land acerage..

    we suppliment our propane with wood stoves and we use on average 20 cords(8ftx 4 ft x 4 ft of wood)/per year ...that's lot of trees which need to be felled and cut down to size. and replaced on an on-going basis so you have new growth for the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad View Post
    That sounds like a great way to work out and not to mention lots of fun! I'm not seeing a down side.
    Well, apparently my hisband doesn't feel the same as you. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Penguin View Post
    You also needs lot of land acerage..

    we suppliment our propane with wood stoves and we use on average 20 cords(8ftx 4 ft x 4 ft of wood)/per year ...that's lot of trees which need to be felled and cut down to size. and replaced on an on-going basis so you have new growth for the future.
    Holy smokin' Succatosh darth!! That's a whole lot a wood! What do you have? 5000 sq. ft?!!

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