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    Hey Everyone,

    I need a suggestion on something. Would you do a job just because it paid good money, and you were in a situation where you needed the money, but did not like your job or the hours you worked.

    A friend of mine recently found a new job, at first she was all happy and everything becuase of the pay, even though she did not like the hours. (She has to do a rotation switching from Days and Nights and these are 12 hours shifts). She does not think she can do it, but she thinks she has to do it untill she finds something because of her financial situation. I am concerned about her because she is a sickly person and we used to work together and she started missing alot of work, becuase of being sick. She has to start next week. I have told her to be honest with her boss and tell them her concerns. She is afraid that if she does, she might loose the chance of getting a job. Right now she needs the money, but I know for a fact she will not be able to work the 12 hour shifts.

    Does anyone have any suggestions.
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    my suggestions and concerns are the same way you feel about the issue. i understand her circumstances but health its worth jepordizing if your already a person that gets sick lots...theres lots of jobs out there

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    If she starts missing a lot of time in the first 3 months, they will (and should) let her go.

    As a former boss of 100+ employees, someone who agrees to do a job, agrees to the hours set forth, but knows full well that they cannot do the work will definitely be out of a job before the 90 days are up; I have experienced it first hand far too many times to count.

    Don't accept a job that you know you cannot do, or agree to shifts/hours/days that you cannot work expecting that an employer will keep you; being let go in the 90 days will put you on an automatic 'not eligible for rehire' list - what this also means is that when new potential employers call some of your more recent employers to ask questions about you, one of the questions that they ALL ask is "would you rehire" and the answer will be no.

    She needs to be honest with her employer; just because a person needs the money, it's not right to screw someone over for personal gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazE View Post
    If she starts missing a lot of time in the first 3 months, they will (and should) let her go.

    As a former boss of 100+ employees, someone who agrees to do a job, agrees to the hours set forth, but knows full well that they cannot do the work will definitely be out of a job before the 90 days are up; I have experienced it first hand far too many times to count.

    Don't accept a job that you know you cannot do, or agree to shifts/hours/days that you cannot work expecting that an employer will keep you; being let go in the 90 days will put you on an automatic 'not eligible for rehire' list - what this also means is that when new potential employers call some of your more recent employers to ask questions about you, one of the questions that they ALL ask is "would you rehire" and the answer will be no.

    She needs to be honest with her employer; just because a person needs the money, it's not right to screw someone over for personal gain.

    Thank you for the input I totally agree with what you said. It is not right to screw and employer over especially if she knows she is going to require sometime off for her medical treatments. Hopefully she has the brains to talk to her employer and tell the truth before she starts her job.

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    Some employers are willing to help where they can is necessary, but when they decide to hire someone, they factor in the need for X number of people for X number of hours in X amount of time; when someone is hired and cannot keep to what the expectation of the job is, it costs not only the employers, but other employees who must cover the time that person is missing.
    I totally understand the need for money, but she needs to be honest with herself about what she can and cannot do.

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    I agree with KrazE.

    If she hates the job, she should look for something else, but if it is just not liking the hours, she should speak with the employer. Perhaps the employer might be able to modify her hours of work or let her work from home some days?

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    I have been there and am there now. The first Time I was full-time and had to leave and couldn't work at all. I was bed-ridden and my 3 year old was taking care of me. I will never forgive myself for that.

    My circumstances are a little different though as I have recently found out what a major cause for my problem is. One of my car accidents several years ago has left me learning disabled. I had to give up my career and am I still at the job I hated 5 years ago minus several stress leaves and a couple of hospital stays. I literally can't find another job. I can't count and have the brain abilities of a 5th grader. No one will hire me.

    Luckily I am rehabilitated enough to go do easy labour jobs but even that is tough because I "can't" learn new things. So I am stuck in a crappy job that is making my condition worse.

    My point is the job IS making her condition worse with the hours, if she hates it, it will GET only worse. Being healthy and being able to look for a job is a lot better than being bed-ridden. We have had some pretty rough times but honestly I don't think my health is worth it. My mortgage payments were missed a few times when I was off for a couple of months. Oh well I just keep thinking construction season should be starting up soon and hopefully I will be working there instead of a couple hours a week (enough to keep my drug plan).

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysdaddysgirl View Post
    I have been there and am there now. The first Time I was full-time and had to leave and couldn't work at all. I was bed-ridden and my 3 year old was taking care of me. I will never forgive myself for that.

    My circumstances are a little different though as I have recently found out what a major cause for my problem is. One of my car accidents several years ago has left me learning disabled. I had to give up my career and am I still at the job I hated 5 years ago minus several stress leaves and a couple of hospital stays. I literally can't find another job. I can't count and have the brain abilities of a 5th grader. No one will hire me.

    Luckily I am rehabilitated enough to go do easy labour jobs but even that is tough because I "can't" learn new things. So I am stuck in a crappy job that is making my condition worse.

    My point is the job IS making her condition worse with the hours, if she hates it, it will GET only worse. Being healthy and being able to look for a job is a lot better than being bed-ridden. We have had some pretty rough times but honestly I don't think my health is worth it. My mortgage payments were missed a few times when I was off for a couple of months. Oh well I just keep thinking construction season should be starting up soon and hopefully I will be working there instead of a couple hours a week (enough to keep my drug plan).

    Hugs Daddy's girl.. I hope the best for you.. and my friend.. Your input is great and I am going to let her read everyone's feedback, and see what she thinks.. you are right health is more important then wealth.

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    What people don't seem to realize is that employers have a job to get done. For some jobs someone can miss a day and make it up later but other jobs are not like that.

    I currently have a co-worker that has had attention deficit disorder(ADD). Where I work you have to be professional, focused,flexible. Unfortunately he has not realized that his disability interferes with doing the job. I feel badly for him at one level and angry at another as I have to take care of stuff when he screws up. At first I thought he would learn but now realize he can't. It is like expecting me to be a ballet dancer.

    Your friend is setting herself up for failure if she takes a job she can not handle or does not have the skills for.

    I have helped our teenage sons get work and tell them to be honest and also assertive. If they do not have the training for a job to let the employer know why they think they can do the job. If they want full-time work then find out when they will be booked and never agree to a job until they get booked.

    The reason for this that liquor barn hired our oldest last summer but did not tell him how many hours he would get. After the first week of training they booked him for 12 hrs for the entire week. What that did was tie him for a weeks training(which was also not full time so he did not get paid for full time) and he did not look for other work as he thought he had work.

    The point being you have to honest, direct and assertive with employers. If they hire your friend knowing her health issues it is a different story.
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    sorry pushed submit twice..

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    don't know yourself down Alwaysdaddysgirl. have you ever seen the show 'are you smarter than a 5th grader'? holy crap the stuff THEY now I don't.. wow..


    to the OP I'd be making sure your friend is honest with the employer from the start.. or at least finding ways to help her out anyway you can if possible. maybe there are agencies etc that can help her in your area.
    unfortunately employers usually only are worried about their top dollar and NOT the health of their employees.. take it from me.
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    Is she leaving a job she likes for this one?
    I would say in this economy she needs to try....u never know she may like it or something better may come up!
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    She is leaving her current job because of her boss the way she was treated and less pay she could barely make ends meet. She was
    Out of work since December as she was sick, She is well trained for the job she has
    Been offered its just that people have been telling her that of she works nights and
    Days rotation she is going to make her health
    Condition worse as her body will be going through shock and her
    Current situation will get worse. Is there
    Any medical professional on here who can give input on this please

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    I used to work shifts in the summer. It is very hard on the body.

    There are studies about the impact on health of shift workers.

    One thing I have heard is the 12 hr shifts are long but better as you get more days off between the next shift rotation so can rest and recuperate.

    Our middle son works 7 a.m-3:30 p.m. on weekends. He is young,healthy and fit but he gets very very tired going to bed at 9 p.m.. He is a dishwasher/prep cook so it is a very physical job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelkens View Post
    I used to work shifts in the summer. It is very hard on the body.

    There are studies about the impact on health of shift workers.

    One thing I have heard is the 12 hr shifts are long but better as you get more days off between the next shift rotation so can rest and recuperate.

    Our middle son works 7 a.m-3:30 p.m. on weekends. He is young,healthy and fit but he gets very very tired going to bed at 9 p.m.. He is a dishwasher/prep cook so it is a very physical job.

    Yes that's my concern my friend is severely anemic and has other health issues

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