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    Aren't farmed fish usually either left gasping for air, hit on the head, pumped with CO2 or shocked by iced water or electricity? And then the blood is drained?

    Are fish sold in packages or at the grocery store labeled by the method that they are killed? A person at a fish market should know where the fish comes from and how, but does everyone else know?
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    wow ...even thinking about how any meat comes to the store shelf makes it equally as hard for me to eat....I did not know (maybe didn't want to know ?) how the animals are killed but um yeah...don't think I want to eat meat any more than I did before....


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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer_glade View Post
    Aren't farmed fish usually either left gasping for air, hit on the head, pumped with CO2 or shocked by iced water or electricity? And then the blood is drained?

    Are fish sold in packages or at the grocery store labeled by the method that they are killed? A person at a fish market should know where the fish comes from and how, but does everyone else know?
    never occured to me how fish were killed either....


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    Just another note, I don't know many slaughter houses that will:

    - go one on one with the animal
    - calm it down; if it doesn't, it gets released
    - will give it water
    - will isolate it so other animals do not witness
    - say a prayer
    - cut as quickly as possible to severe connections so pain is minimal
    - some will even stay with the animal until it is dead (sometimes talking to it and rubbing it down)
    - give thanks for the animal's sacrifice

    Yes, death is not instant. That is probably why so many are opposed. If it is done well, the animal should not suffer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jezzeebelle View Post
    never occured to me how fish were killed either....
    Lol, didn't mean to freak anyone out or put anyone off eating meat or fish. It's just a way of life. It's natural. Can't say killing doesn't help with population control.

    As long as you're not wasteful, it's okay by me.

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    Thank you alwaysdaddysgirl for bringing this subject to our attention. I didn't know this about halal or kosher meat. I will take that into consideration when shopping. Ultimately I don't like to think about the fact that we are taking a life when we eat meat, so I've chosen to stick my head in the sand on the subject.

    I applaud you for choosing a vegetarian lifestyle and I wish I had the same commitment as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer_glade View Post

    Lol, didn't mean to freak anyone out or put anyone off eating meat or fish. It's just a way of life. It's natural. Can't say killing doesn't help with population control.

    As long as you're not wasteful, it's okay by me.
    I am highly allergic to Fish so I won't think about how they end up in the grocery store

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    . Ultimately I don't like to think about the fact that we are taking a life when we eat meat, so I've chosen to stick my head in the sand on the subject.

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    I eat so little meat and in order to eat what I do I "will stick my head in the sand" right next to you
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    My point in my last post was that all meat killed in this way should be labelled as such and that is part of the big hulabaloo. People have a right to make an informed decision. If the meat is not or does not have to be labelled (which I believe it is supposed to be but am uncertain so correct me if I am wrong) as such that right is being taken away from people.

    I wouldn't want to buy a car without knowing its history. I have a right to know where the food I am feeding my family comes from. I almost always buy fair trade dry goods, grow my own veggies in the summer, and my husband cans. I even make my own dog food so I know what my dogs are eating.

    Knowledge is power.

    I am not big on killing any animals even fish. I have never been fishing as I think it is cruel even catch and release.

    I have nothing against people who choose to eat meat which is one of the reasons I did this post. They have a right to know what they are buying. When I look in the meat aisle it looks like most parts of the animal are used with the skin being used for clothing. It is a personal choice and that choice shouldn't be taken away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer_glade View Post
    Just another note, I don't know many slaughter houses that will:

    - go one on one with the animal
    - calm it down; if it doesn't, it gets released
    - will give it water
    - will isolate it so other animals do not witness
    - say a prayer
    - cut as quickly as possible to severe connections so pain is minimal
    - some will even stay with the animal until it is dead (sometimes talking to it and rubbing it down)
    - give thanks for the animal's sacrifice

    Yes, death is not instant. That is probably why so many are opposed. If it is done well, the animal should not suffer.



    Lol, didn't mean to freak anyone out or put anyone off eating meat or fish. It's just a way of life. It's natural. Can't say killing doesn't help with population control.

    As long as you're not wasteful, it's okay by me.
    Totally agree!!!!!

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    Would rather not see the government regulated this, because it means tax dollars going to pay someone to do a poor job figuring it out and then trying to maintain it. I do think the government should have food safety standards, but that is as far as they should take it. I honestly don't think it's our governments job to babysit every aspect of our lives, if we want to know about our meat we can inquire with the company that packs it as to how it is raised or killed, or we can raise our own meat. I honestly don't want to pay more taxes so that someone else can see a sticker on a package and know weather or not they want to buy it. If they want to be informed they can do the work themselves.

    Putting pressure on company's to do something so far is working, slowly, but it is working. Sodium and sugar has been greatly reduced because of consumer pressure. So if you really want your meat labled put some pressure on companies.

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    I have to say I understand that you would like to be better informed about what you are buying for your house however, calling someones religious beliefs and practices 'barbaric' is down right rude. Although you may not agree with it I am sure that there is a different way you could have used to word your thoughts. Just saying....Also Kosher meats are butchered in the same way.

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    Also for meat to be considered halal it must follow guidelines other then the slaughtering process. No animal derivatives are to be fed to the animals and the animals must be treated kindly and given space to roam around while they are alive. They must be shown mercy ad compassion. I wonder how many animals are treated kindly by other big name companies or if they are just raised for slaughter? Had you just said that you prefer to not eat meat then that would be understandable. But the fact that you are against halal meat because of what happens while they are being killed and yet no consideration is given to how animals are to be treated while they are alive is ironic.

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