Lol, of course it's at cost to them, I don't do donations :biggrin:. I hand over the receipt and get reimbursed. It's not pure profit nor is there no overhead.
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they would prosecute only people taking coupons from products and not tear pads....t6here is no law against taking tear pads as there are put out specifically for people to take...
Wow lucky them for now! All I know, speaking from some experience in the field, they better hope that they do not get busted. A few years ago there were some video stores that bought their movies and snacks from places like WM, and such. They got busted because their product was not purchased for the intent of resale or profit. It is a scam that does happen, and yes people get busted. You need to be able to prove proper purchases for the business for resale, ie showing sales receipts from Costco using your business license attached to that membership. WM,RCSS and so on do not have such a licensing agreement.
Anyway just my opinion and input
If it works for you thats great
see, if thieves dressed like this
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the LPOs would have a much easier job...
The case you describe doesn't pertain to our situation. In addition, a business license is not attached to a Costco membership, of that I am certain. In fact, anyone can purchase from Costco (or any other store for that matter) to resell, not just businesses. Toilet paper, paper towels, cleaning products are not purchased for the business I work for for resale, it's used. Not sure about the laws elsewhere but in QC, a small business is allowed to purchase from any other business for resale with some exceptions. In fact, many of the large chain stores here encourage it as they want the business from the distributors (middlemen) that tend to gouge the smaller stores. As long as you have receipts to prove the appropriate taxes have been paid, it's perfectly legal.
Maybe you should check again with Costco, because you do need a business license and GST# on your Costco business membership to get approved receipts and tax exempt product for resale. I am not going to have a pissing contest, just wish you all luck in the future
I think you are talking about supplies for the staff. TP for the staff washroom and the like. I do the same for my store.
I wasn't aware it was a pissing contest, tammy :shrug:. I'm just trying to say how it is over here since you're implying it's illegal. Small businesses don't get tax exemptions from Costco here, nor from any other sellers. Businesses pay taxes on all purchases just like anyone else. I got the Costco membership for the business I work for and all I was asked for was the same as my personal Costco card, nothing more.
In regards to other chain stores such as WM etc., it's not about licensing agreements, it's about wholesale permits. Those stores are not allowed to sell for wholesale prices (less than what they'd sell to regular customers) to other businesses but nothing stops them from selling at their regular/sale prices. Of course they can limit quantities and I'm all for that.
ok i'm not trying to cause a fuss, but here's what i think:
i do not believe that people should sell coupons on ebay.
i do think that we should be able to trade for gift cards or stamps if we choose to. it's a choice. if it's not up your alley, don't do it.
i raok and spend more stamps sending coupons people want, and more often than not, i don't get the coupons i originally wanted. i cave, (my choice) accept coupons i don't really want or need to send people what they want. i don't think that makes me a bad person...a push over maybe lol. so, that being said, the odd time, i offer up a huge lot of coupons (these are great for people who don't feel like driving all over the place to find coupons. i live in a rural area - sometimes i drive 200 km in a day looking for coupons (again my choice) ). so when i offer these i would like a gc. i don't offer them often and sometimes drive 40 km to deliver them (each direction, again my choice). do i want a gift card. yes please.
sorry hubby is talking in the back ground...i want to say all that pleasantly. if it doesn't come across that way, i'm very sorry. gotta run. will check back in when he shuts up lol
I was the one who posted about the coupon thief. It was awesome to see someone get arrested for it. But it has been aquestion I have had ever since. i wonder what heppended to her and what she could have got charged with
All I was trying to say is it there are bylaws that have to be followed, and yes I am aware of them in all areas of Canada. Some provinces differ, in all aspects of the bylaw standards whether it be for SB or Corps, WM and such are not allowed to offer and wholesale/retail discounts because they do not have the licensing for resale or any other. They are strictly for private sales. The WholeSale Club (Loblaws) and Costco and a few other do if fact have the proper licensing and permits for resale/wholesale or to general public. For a business with a legitimate GST# they are to receive a tax exemption, because by law tax can not be collected twice on an item. Anyways like I said before, it is all just my opinion and do what you feel you are doing is right! Sorry if I came off as a or whatever.
i thought the remittance for hst was received-paid = suck it up and pay the difference. k that's off topic.
i understand the op's frustration about selling AND BUYING on ebay. one won't work without the other. if one stops, the other eventually will too. that would end the problem. hope it happens sooner than later. the same would work with trading coupons for gc or stamps...
since you are so focused on doing things the way you think is correct, remember you are committing fraud if you give or take a P&G coupon from someone and use it..
thanks everyone for you replies and views
you are correct
I would assume that this comment is related to my son theweave who went to No Frills with 118 (not 58) coupons for the juice. Please explain how this is "pathetic" when he donated 100 of them to the local food bank? The fact is the juice was $1.00, and the coupon was $1.00. No one lost money over the deal and the food bank received 100 bottles of juice one week before Thanksgiving. I do not see what is wrong with doing what he did. He did not steal one single thing. He had the coupons and each one was not photcopied, photoshopped or altered. Each one was printed individually using 118 pieces of printer paper and the ink. So how is this even comparable to what is being discussed here?
If that is pathetic, then what about the people on here that build huge stockpiles of things when they are on sale? Also a question directly to you, when you buy something and use a coupon, do you buy only one of the item? If you buy more then one, then IMO you are the same as what Chris did, only he did it on a larger scale then two.
Here is the original thread from September 2010. Note that there is not one negative comment made about it....
http://forum.smartcanucks.ca/156859-...y-brag-canada/
this is a paste from the first few lines of your sons brag Seeing as I saw someone earlier say they bought 81 bottles of Ocean Spray, I decided I would go for the SC record!!! :cheesygrin:
obviously more than one person made this brag. perhaps she wasn't speaking of your son?
but at least he donated to the food bank and did not cheat others out of getting coupons in order to get them....also he did not make a profit from it.....
it is great that there are still good hearted people left in the world...
The coupons weren't "free"......they were included with the PURCHASE of a product.
the charges of "theft", "vandalism", and "tampering with product" come to mind.
(remember the Tylenol scenario years ago?.....people were 'tampering with product", except with more lethal intentions than simply stealing coupons & vandalism.)
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disclaimer: just to be clear, this is not directed at any one post(er)
Purposefully damaging/tampering with packaging is illegal. So if she had to rip/tear/break a seal, then that is a crime and whether there was a coupon in it or not, it's not considered a huge crime. People damage packages all the time, to try to circumvent security/alarm systems, and nothing ever happens to them either, so the coupon won't make a difference one way or the other.
Coupons on Ebay...meh. I get it, they aren't 'really' charging for their time, if that's how you interpret it. The sheer volume of coupons vs. the sellers on ebay is pretty small. I don't buy coupons. I fail to see the value in it, as the bidding wars generally seem to remove any real benefit. The less people that buy, the less money they will make, I will agree with that. That being said, some communities just don't have access to coupons and have a high cost of living, so I could see the other side of the coin. Some traders are not very generous with highly sought after coupons, and it may work out to be cheaper the other way. I don't know. I've never been in a situation where I had to consider the value in it, so I'm on the fence. Even if they stop selling their time, they'll just resell something else and include free coupons. "For sale, page 3 Stephen Harper article, history in the making! 5 free Haggen-Dazs coupons included with every purchase."
I get more upset that pawn shops sell stolen merch without any real ramifications. That is stuff the people have PAID for, and had taken from them. Coupons, while extremely helpful, are just pieces of no-cash-value paper up for the taking, and are a free little bonus when I find them.
Do I get irritated when people take a whole tearpad? Yep. Maybe my kindness factor is higher or different from that other person. But how do I know it was one person and not four who just took a lot? On that note, I trade coupons, very generously, all the time. Does that mean I take a few extra sometimes? You bet I do. I have some product coupons that I could easily buy 50+ of the item, built up through trades. I don't have that kind of cash flow, so I spread it out over the time before the expiry. Does it make me a bad person if I get up at 6am to hit a sale before the majority of other people, so that I can be sure I have the product I want, in the amount that I want, at the price I want? I am a shelf clearer if I buy all the items on the shelf. Am I shelf clearer if I get to a store that only has 5 of the items and I have (5) XX product on my list? Am I supposed to leave one? What if they only ever carry 5 at a time?
Am I going to judge someone who takes a lot or brags that they got a lot? Nope, that falls under "Nunya" -- as in "none of your (my) business". I don't know what they do with them. Maybe they donate. Maybe they don't. Maybe they're in a rough spot and need to save as much money as they can on their bills. Maybe they have a family of 12. Maybe they REALLY REALLY like the product, and use a crazy amount. Maybe it's just that they traded for a bunch of coupons. Maybe they are 'preppers' and are getting their bug-out/bug-in items ready. Maybe they are hoarders and need help. Maybe they are jerks. It all just a bunch of maybe.
At the end of the day, I have met a great group of people from all over Canada and we help each other out. I can't start worrying about the small number of jerks, or stressing out about one coupon vs. another or who has what, or what they're doing with it. I have learned that coupon misuse is rarely illegal, occasionally sketchy and mostly just rude, and I don't associate with that part of it. When I see coupon sketchiness, or coupon rudeness, or miss out on a coupon, or miss out on a deal, or any small things like that, I just try to remind myself that am blessed to have family, friends, shelter, food in the fridge, the ability to pay my electric bill, a couple of great coupons and a bright sunshiny day (if not today, then one on the way). I would imagine if those things were not solid, and it was economically beneficial to pay someone for their time and receive cost-savings in return, I would do so. As they are not tenuous, I will keep helping out where I can.