All Purpose Politics and News Thread

[gryphon]

"Life" imprisonment in Canada.....should be out in a few years...I can't remember the particular case that had me fuming, but someone was sentenced to "life" and was out in...was it 10 years or so? My mind's a sieve wrt details, but I do remember being so angry about it...Yes, excellent verdict, however!!

I thought the son's statement after the verdict showed such composure, it wasn't vindictive, and I felt so terribly sorry for the family. I hope one day their remains may be found so the family can put them to rest and have closure.
So sad...

He has no chance of parole though so its the full 25

[lecale]

He has no chance of parole though so its the full 25

2nd degree is 10-25 years until parole. They haven't sentenced him yet (that's tomorrow).

He may be able to argue his case on appeal down to manslaughter, and that is 4-25 years to parole.

Any kind of murder is a life sentence in Canada, but you may be paroled, and that is where the sentences differ.

[DaveP]

2nd degree is 10-25 years until parole. They haven't sentenced him yet (that's tomorrow).

He may be able to argue his case on appeal down to manslaughter, and that is 4-25 years to parole.

Any kind of murder is a life sentence in Canada, but you may be paroled, and that is where the sentences differ.

The Google is strong with you. Regardless, it will be a very long time before he sees freedom again.

[lecale]

The Google is strong with you. Regardless, it will be a very long time before he sees freedom again.

I actually read the news every day; I don't have to Google. I'm also on a crime forum, so I know the penalties and legal process pretty well.

[lecale]

Well, thank goodness your creepy interests benefit us here.

I am actually going to be credited for my research in a true crime book that's being published this fall by Random House. This will be the second title where my name was credited (the other isn't true crime though.)

Research is my hobby.

[lecale]

Attack ongoing at a Catholic church in Paris

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...e-Marcel-Paris

[Natalka]

^ apparently a false alert

[DaveP]

I actually read the news every day; I don't have to Google. I'm also on a crime forum, so I know the penalties and legal process pretty well.

Wow, a crime forum. You're almost like a lawyer or something.

[Darth Penguin]

Bless her heart, the poor thing...http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/09/06...dge-robin-camp


She’s fought through tears, trembling and very probably, a natural urge to just drop the whole thing and make it go away.

But on Tuesday, the 24-year-old woman whose knees were the subject of a judge’s brutal queries at a Calgary rape trial once again overcame obvious fear to confront someone she believes has violated her — in this case, by making her question her own sexual conduct.

“He made me hate myself and he made me feel like I should have done something, like I was some kind of slut,” said the young woman, whose name is protected by a publication ban.

Answering direct questions and reading from a prepared statement, the woman told a Canadian Judicial Council hearing that Justice Robin Camp went beyond anything she’d expected, as one of the rare Canadians to actually report a sexual assault.
“The judge asked me questions about my sexuality and made me very uncomfortable and confused. What did he get out of asking me those kinds of questions?”

As well as the notorious “knees together” question, Camp thought it appropriate to grill the alleged victim on why she didn’t just shift her genitals out of harm’s way, if she wasn’t keen on sex.

AND THIS I did NOT know!
“Why didn’t you just sink your bottom down into the basin so he couldn’t penetrate you?”
Those questions alone, forever recorded in the court record on that day back in 2014, are probably rope enough if Camp’s career is to ultimately hang for his horrifying attitude in this case.
“I’m so disappointed and sad about the system. My biggest worry is the victims who will never come forward because of what they read in the newspaper about Justice Camp’s words,” she said, reading from her statement.

The gift that just keeps giving..



oy vey..




bolding mine!

I hope Mr Harper and co distance themselves from this guy..

The Conservative government made 98 patronage appointments over two days last month, filling up federal boards, tribunals and panels in advance of the October election.

...snip..

Appointment of the HONOURABLE ROBIN B. CAMP, to be a Judge of the Federal Court, and a member ex officio of the Federal Court of Appeal.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/nation...e-appointments

[Darth Penguin]

Even if the Canadian Judicial Council (CJC) winds up urging the ouster of a once crude-talking criminal trial judge, it would punish a Justice Camp who no longer exists. That was the argument from his lawyer, Frank Addario, who gave the inquiry his two-Camps theory: one, a judge who ignorantly fell for rape myths and stereotypes with remarks even his daughter publicly called disgraceful, and the other, a “future Justice Camp” who is repentant, vastly improved and self-vigilant after months of counselling.
Besides this theory of a purported Robin Camp 2.0, there’s another reason that controversial old judge no longer exists. Months before Stephen Harper’s government was voted out last year, it upgraded Camp from the Alberta provincial court to the Federal Court of Canada. In that new incarnation, he won’t hear further criminal trials of women alleging rape (though he may deal with immigrants and refugee claimants fleeing sexual violence).

http://www.macleans.ca/news/robin-ca...es-the-judges/

[Lynn49]

I am actually going to be credited for my research in a true crime book that's being published this fall by Random House. This will be the second title where my name was credited (the other isn't true crime though.)

Research is my hobby.

Now THAT is absolutely fascinating, @lecale!!!! Wow!! Honey, I really am impressed.
Like you, I also love doing research and sleuthing, the family knows who to ask around here to find things out!
Good for you!! You'll just have to PM me those book titles!!

Edited to add: *Thanks, Hon.....now I'm really impressed!!!!!!!!!!!

[lecale]

Angelina Jolie files for divorce from Brad Pitt

One of Hollywood's highest profile marriages is over.

Angelina Jolie has filed for divorce from husband Brad Pitt, a source familiar with the filing confirmed to CNN.


Pitt and Jolie got married in 2014

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/entert...rce/index.html

Update:

Angelina dumped Brad after private eye uncovered Marion Cotillard affair
http://pagesix.com/2016/09/20/angeli...illard-affair/

Angelina Jolie is dumping Brad Pitt after hiring a private investigator to spy on him on the set of his latest film — where, she learned, he was cheating, a well-placed source told The Post on Tuesday.


“She hired a private eye because she felt that he was fooling around with her on the set, and it turns out, he was. And that was the final straw,” the source said.


Pitt had been rumored to have been cozying up to his “Allied” co-star, Marion Cotillard, in London for months.


He and Jolie also had been sparring over their lifestyle, another source said.


She has increasingly wanted to quit Hollywood in favor of devoting herself full-time to her humanitarian work, while Pitt prefers Tinseltown, the source said.


“The older she gets, the more serious she becomes, and she is sick of the Hollywood thing,” the source said. “He wants to make movies. She doesn’t. It’s a fundamental difference. It’s how you live your life.”


She is seeking physical custody of the couple’s six kids, TMZ said.


She doesn’t want Pitt to have joint physical custody, just joint legal custody. He would get visitation, according to her filing.


Jolie is not seeking spousal support, the website said.


She has hired top gun Laura Wasser as her lawyer.


The documents list the date of separation as Sept. 15, 2016.


The couple were married in August 2014 but have been together since 2004.

[Lynn49]

Okay, honestly, though!! WHY is that on TV news?!
The entertainment shows, fine, people can gobble up that stuff, but when I want real news, I want
real news, not gollywood crap. When those two care about what I'm doing, I'll care about them.

This is no reflection on you of course, @lecale (as you know, I'm a fan, lol), but on the TV NEWS stations??!!!
Ridiculous.

[Darth Penguin]

BBCnews ran a 2 minute piece about their waxworks being separated and moved to different areas. That was surreal.

[Lynn49]

BBCnews ran a 2 minute piece about their waxworks being separated and moved to different areas. That was surreal.

Don't they know that nothing is forever in gollywood?! Those people change partners like normal people change socks...and they're all going to eventually be inbred. If not already.