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    Reducing your debt load

    Before we can even begin speaking about investments and retirement funds, we first have to get ride of the debt. That is obviously easier to write about than to put into action, some of us who are starting out in life, find it difficult to make ends meet especially when we have children to take care of. It seems that kids are a like a black hole for money, new shoes, clothes, outings, daycare etc. As new parents some of us are not at the pay level we need to be at in order to live a comfortable life, studies have shown that by the time we reach 50 years of age, we are at the highest income level that can be attained. So basically in our 20's, we are just barely getting by, in our 30's we are establishing our careers, but have not reach our full earning potential, in our 40's we are now closer into our goals and by our 50's we should be earning a good wage to supplement our retirement needs.

    The question now remains, what to do now, how do I save and reduce debt at an early age? If we are not earning our full potential, how do we reduce debt and begin saving for our future. I have some suggestions, but as usual speaking to a professional will give you a clear road map and fine tune your investments to reach your goals.

    1. Identify needs and wants : When I was sitting with people and helping them with their debts and investments, I always wrote down their expenses and broke it down as follows.

    Living Expenses:
    Mortgage or Rent
    Home expenses gas, water, hydro
    Insurance car, home etc
    Car payments
    Car expenses gas, oil changes
    Food
    Clothing
    Daycare costs
    Cell phone
    House phone
    Credit card
    Total Monthly=

    Optional Expenses
    Cable TV
    Internet
    Eating out
    Gifts
    Donations
    Travel
    Total Monthly=

    The first part of the debt reduction strategy is to find out what is needed to live on. What is the basic amount you need in order to have a home, a car to go to work and anything else that is needed. The second part is a list of things that are not needed to live, cable tv is not needed, so is eating out. Get the total amount of your take home pay and then deduct the total amount from the needed expenses. This is your monthly living costs, what you have left over is your potential to reducing your debt. (Most people are shocked at what is left over, when you remove cable tv, internet etc)


    Once you identify the not needed expenses, you can start using the extra money per month to paying down your debt. You can use the snowball strategy or simply add more to your payments to reduce what you owe. Research different strategies and simply stick with it, the quicker you start, the faster you can start investing.

    My wife and I speak about our expenses and strategies at least once a week, we use Mint to see what is going out and what is eating up our money. Whatever strategy you use, stick with it and let us all reach our retirement goals.
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    Is there a part 1?

    While I agree that the advice to “live within your means” is sound, it totally ignores the psychological impulses that would push someone into debt to start with. It’s easy to tell someone their cable tv and internet service is optional, but getting rid of them could instantly create feelings of deprivation that will have them go out and buy a bunch of DVD’s they can’t afford so that they can be entertained.

    Wouldn’t it be more useful to help them figure out why they got into debt in the first place? For example, what were the reasons behind the expensive vacation they got into debt for? Just having them cut back their expenses without any analysis on how they got there in the first place just keeps the pattern repeating itself, because in the blink of an eye, they’ll come across another want disguised as a need for which they'll likely be handing their credit card. (Who doesn't know someone got a loan to consolidate credit card debt only to turn around to max out their cards?)

    Cutting back only works when the person is happy with his choices. It doesn’t work so well if all the person can think about is what they can’t afford.
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    Thank you for the input, you are correct, fixing what got you into debt in the first place is needed. But it is impossible to cover all scenario's, so that is why I suggested an financial adviser, they can review your information, offer suggestions and create a roadmap on removing the debt and saving for retirement. Most people who are already in debt, know how they got there (most of the time) so speaking to a professional will hopefully give them a good route to follow.

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