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    This is also beautiful, gives me chills everytime.

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    I posted this thread about sir Nicholas Winton last year...

    Sir Nicholas Winton recieves Czech highest award for Kindertransport
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    My people were also killed, tortured and Hitler tried everything in his power to wipe us out. The gentleman below was one survivor. He even shared a cell with the Jewish Governor of Upper Austria (who after war kindly helped him)

    From The LA Daily News



    107-year-old Holocaust survivor, Jehovah's Witness is star of 'Ladder in the Lions' Den' documentary
    By Bob Strauss, Staff Writer
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzjUg_95Vbk <<< Movie Trailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaPdrKAwPzs <<< Beautiful song written for him. (Tear-jerker)
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2005325 <<< very short version of story


    An unusual Holocaust documentary has brought near-capacity afternoon crowds to the Laemmle Town Center 5 for almost a week.
    They've come not only to see "Ladder in the Lions' Den," but to meet its subject, 107-year-old Austrian survivor Leopold Engleitner.
    Sitting quietly in his wheelchair outside the theater, the frail but remarkably resilient Engleitner met adoring fans from all over Southern California after Monday's screening of the 40-minute-film. It recounts the Jehovah's Witness' refusal to join Hitler's army during World War II and subsequent imprisonment in three Nazi concentration camps.


    "It's really something that everybody should know about but very few people do," said Dave Butler, a Jehovah's Witness who drove down from Bakersfield to see the movie and meet the man. "Leopold doesn't speak English, I'd love to talk to him, but I think he's awesome. He's expending his limited strength and resources to come out and meet people and do this tour; it's amazing. It's very generous of him."


    Born in 1905 with a bent spine and raised in a lakeside village not far from where Hitler grew up, Engleitner was appalled by the slaughter of World War I and joined the pacifist Jehovah's Witnesses in the early 1930s. When Austria joined the German Reich in 1938, members of the religion were rounded up. They could get out of the camps if they signed a paper - the ladder of the title - renouncing their religion and accepting the Nazis' warlike ways.


    According to the film, the Austrian Witnesses, including Engleitner, refused to do so. Many, of course, paid with their lives.
    Through narration and re-enactment, the movie recounts Engleitner's harrowing ordeal, which included the time when, starving on a march back to camp from a work detail, his testicle was crushed by an SS guard's boot, which prevented him from ever fathering children.


    Decades later, Engleitner met a young Austrian, Bernhard Rammerstorfer, in a park in his hometown. Taken by the older man's story, Rammerstorfer wrote a book about Engleitner, "Unbroken Will," and produced an earlier documentary about him as well as "Ladder in the Lions' Den."


    "I hope that educators will pick it up and realize the important message that is there," the film's narrator, Sun Valley resident Fred Fuss, said. "Leopold did a very significant thing: he just said no. When he was being bullied, browbeaten, threatened with his life to give up his principles, he didn't, because of his conscience. Isn't that the message we try to give our young people?"
    While not suggesting that it was in any way easy, Engleitner said that his stubbornness in the face of evil was, quite simply, inevitable.


    "It's important that you live your life according to just principles," Engleitner explained. "I found them in the Bible, and that's what also gave me strength - my strong belief in God."
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    Listened to people tell there stories all week and one survivor who went back was saying that 'we want to know but we cannot remember like him' I was struck by this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty Smyth View Post
    I think you should ask them. My reasoning is that once they are gone those stories are gone with them. I know that when my mom died last year there were a lot of things that I should have asked her about our family history and now she is gone and was the last one of 12. I lost uncles in the war, don't know how or where.

    You already know it's going to be horrible, but they triumphed. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by gryphon View Post
    My grandparents have both passed on sadly
    Sorry Gryphon didn't know.

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    Captured by drone camera, haunting.


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    New Spielberg short film


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    Head/desk///head/desk....


    why do part of my family have to be Holocaust Deniers???

    I have 2 FB accounts. One for my family and one for every-one else...the whole deniers sh1t on there recently reminds me why I never let the twain inter-act...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Penguin View Post
    Head/desk///head/desk....


    why do part of my family have to be Holocaust Deniers???

    I have 2 FB accounts. One for my family and one for every-one else...the whole deniers sh1t on there recently reminds me why I never let the twain inter-act...
    Deniers how? They don't agree with the numbers? They don't believe anyone was killed? They don't believe it was against the jews?

    While I understand it's hard to get an exact number there is no denying 50 million people + were killed in WWII

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    Yes, very hard to believe anyone could even wrap their head around the idea it didn't happen. . .
    people generally will find a way to believe what they want to believe though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty Smyth View Post
    Deniers how? They don't agree with the numbers? They don't believe anyone was killed? They don't believe it was against the jews?

    While I understand it's hard to get an exact number there is no denying 50 million people + were killed in WWII
    Don't agree with the numbers...not death camps...highly exaggerated claims..Jewish Cabal..yadda..yadda...

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    Yes, very hard to believe anyone could even wrap their head around the idea it didn't happen. . .
    people generally will find a way to believe what they want to believe though.
    Some of them totally buy the whole lies because it's easier than thinking for themselves..Pus they don't know any-one who was either a service-man during the war nor a survivor.
    Family members of an age to remember the war were either in Eire, a neutral coutry, or too young to fully grasp what was happening and so can be discounted...The rest is Allied propergander..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty Smyth View Post
    Sorry Gryphon didn't know.
    Its okay, dont worry about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Penguin View Post
    Don't agree with the numbers...not death camps...highly exaggerated claims..Jewish Cabal..yadda..yadda...



    Some of them totally buy the whole lies because it's easier than thinking for themselves..Pus they don't know any-one who was either a service-man during the war nor a survivor.
    Family members of an age to remember the war were either in Eire, a neutral coutry, or too young to fully grasp what was happening and so can be discounted...The rest is Allied propergander..
    Ya. . . and Santa and the Easter Bunny are real and neither is there global warming. All is good in the world. OY!!
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    German man charged with 170,000 accounts of accessory to murder

    A 93-year-old man has been charged with 170,000 counts of accessory to murder on allegations he served as an SS guard at the Nazis' Auschwitz death camp in occupied Poland.
    The defendant, whose name wasn't disclosed in line with privacy laws, allegedly served in Auschwitz from January 1942 to June 1944, the Detmold state court said yesterday.
    It is claimed the man was assigned to the Auschwitz I camp but also helped supervise new prisoners, largely Jews, as they arrived in Auschwitz-Birkenau, the part of the camp complex where most of its 1.1million victims were killed.
    Defense attorney Johannes Salmen said his client has acknowledged being at Auschwitz I, but denies being assigned to Birkenau or being involved in killings.
    The North-Rhine Westphalia centre said the accused was deployed to the Nazi death camp in January 1942, according to The Local.




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