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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 03:48 AM #16
Without starting a huge debate I will just say that I think the girl scouts should be for girls and boy scouts should be for boys.
If they are going to start mixing the genders then they should just call it "Scouts" and let the kids choose what activities they want to participate in, like mentioned previously.I am looking for many fpc coupons and willing to trade gift cards - especially stouffers and fresh produce. The expiry dates must be at least 1 month away. I'm also looking for betty crocker, pillsbury, philadelphia, nexxus, $3 beef, icecream, beans. I prefer large trades but have few coupons to trade.
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 04:04 AM #17
now, we're just one step away from dropping the gender part from the name and just say it's scouts.
I was in scouts of Canada, i had friends join girl guides.. whats the difference between the two? The only thing I remembered was girl guides did more arts and crafts things while scouts did "masculine" things like buidling a bridge from wood?
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 05:19 AM #18Smart Canuck
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They did do the right thing and accepted the child into the troop, or whatever it's called these days...
Does this mean girls will now be accepted into Beavers, or Cubs, or any other "boy" clubs around? If boys are allowed into girl activities, I think it's only fair to have the opposite happen...IMHO...
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 05:31 AM #19
As far as I can tell, all scouts/beavers/cubs programs are open to both genders.
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 08:43 AM #20c-diddy
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Scouts Canada and Girl Scouts of the U.S.A are similar programs with many different aspects. Remember this is a case in the U.S. so we can't compare Scouts Canada with is a boy/girl organization.
The real story here is of a child with gender dysphoria. Who are we to judge.
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 09:37 AM #21Smart Canuck
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when our son was in the cubs they had girls also now he's in the scouts and they have about 4 girls
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 10:47 AM #22Smart Canuck
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Penis, vagina, both or neither this should never affect the childs chances in participating in such a thing.
I think the program really should be for both sexes - either way you look at it it's a great opportunity for young children to learn new things that they may even use later in life. My little girl plays with trucks and tools - if I had a little boy who played with dolls etc it wouldn't bother me one bit. Children shouldn't have to adhere to societys standards of what is "right & wrong".
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 11:21 AM #23
While this little boy may identify as a girl, the quotes from the mother don't indicate that - she says he likes 'girl stuff'. Playing with dolls and wearing dresses doesn't automatically make a boy not a boy. If girls can wear pants and play in tree forts and like the colour blue and still be girls... boys should have the same privilege of wearing dresses and playing with dolls and liking pink and still being boys.
I'm not meaning to say that he doesn't have gender identity issues, I'm just saying based on the quotes relating specifically to the boy in this article, that is jumping to conclusions.
And I hope we aren't pushing kids into gender issues just because of their likes and dislikes not fitting into the girl stuff/boy stuff categories that society arbitrarily defined.
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 11:35 AM #24
either way, if it's a case of gender identity issues or simply a boy who enjoys doing more "girly" things (i hate these stereotypes) he should be able to join where he would enjoy doing the activities. in this day & age the whole "boy"/"girl" thing should be dropped & it just be scouts/guides etc. & have it open to anyone who is interested.
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 11:47 AM #25Senior Canuck
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That's exactly what i was going to say... people are jumping to a conclusion way to fast.
The mother said he liked playing with dolls and wearing dresses..one might assume but still. My brother used to play with my dolls also ..so? doesnt mean i wanted him in the jeannettes! that's a name for the girls scout i used too belong too. I didnt love him any less..just didnt want him with my girly friends and talking about boys and the guy i was gonna marry when i was 8
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 12:19 PM #27Senior Canuck
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I remember back then, being with my girlfriends was so awsome! We talked about weddings and what kind of house we would all have and the guys we love to hate!
. Being with only girls at times is so much different than being with boys..it's a special treat that only girls understand..with exceptions of coarse. I remember when i was young and going to school and being teased by boys that i couldnt wait to go to the jeannettes and not having to deal with those little monsters.. even if it was only 2 hours.. was the best 2 hours in my whole darn week
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 01:44 PM #28
Ya, thats what I was trying to say. Girls have been joining Scouts for over 15 years, so it shouldn't of been a big deal for the boy to join girl guides.
Its not like girls just started joining scouts yesterday, its been going on for years.
As for the boys true "identity" that doesn't even matter to me.
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 05:37 PM #29
I truly believe that parents are free to parent however they want to. I'm a libertarian. However, that doesn't mean that I, or anyone else can't give their honest opinion on any given subject.
The boy is 7. My issue isn't there being an organization that accepts both boys and girls, my issue is that bringing such transformational gender issues into a child's life when they are 7 years old, seems reprehensible to me.
My son wanted to play with a knife. He isn't old enough to understand or handle that kind of responsibility yet, so I said no. When he's old enough to be able to fully understand and handle that responsibility, I will let him, but I will teach and explain things to him first.
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Fri, Oct 28th, 2011, 06:07 PM #30Sith Lady and Cool Kid
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