well thank-you, Whomeno! i appreciate your response because sometimes i feel like i'm living in another era and nobody "gets" me. it's all good fun for me and i don't take too much seriously, especially this thread or whatever it's called, but i do enjoy the interaction between the different personalities. enjoy the rest of the week-end; i'm trying for the 4:15p if i can make the stairs to my office in time. patb