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Thu, Oct 18th, 2007, 07:53 AM #16
i think it is odd for a school to do finger prints for the gym. you should never do anything your uncomfortable with!
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Thu, Oct 18th, 2007, 10:03 AM #17bcteagirlGuest
that is a good idea.. I am am member of the graduate student union rather than the undergraduate, so it is smaller and less powerful (Downright apathetic if you ask me, went to them with problems before and got a 'so what' kind of response)..But as we get more involved perhaps we will find a motivated undergrad who can get them involved with us
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Thu, Oct 18th, 2007, 10:04 AM #18bcteagirlGuest
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Thu, Oct 18th, 2007, 01:55 PM #19UNDERCOVER SCAMBAITER
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Does the University have some sort of ombudsman? Also check out the student newspaper as a sorce of voicing your displeasure.
When I let go of any expectations of how a situation will turn out, I get to keep my serenity, and the situation turns out as it should.
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Thu, Oct 18th, 2007, 03:03 PM #20
I know the ACLU in the US was all over Disney when they introduced fingerprinting at its theme parks. Maybe there's a similar organization in Canada that would be interested in this?
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Thu, Oct 18th, 2007, 03:50 PM #21mewmisGuest
Good Luck BCTeagirl
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http://www.bccla.org/ BC Civil Liberities Association
http://www.bccla.org/05complaints.htm has a list of possible contacts.
OUR CASE ACCEPTANCE POLICY
First, we assess whether the complaint involves a civil liberties issue. Traditionally, civil liberties issues focus on the relationship between the state and the citizen. However, we also assist persons with complaints against private organizations. In our modern world, institutions such as our employers, the media and volunteer organizations can have a significant impact on our lives, in ways that mirror the problems that arise between the state and the citizenry.
If the complaint does not involve a civil liberties issue, we refer the person to another agency that deals with the issue, for example the provincial Office of the Ombudsman or the Privacy Commissioner. Where no such agency exists, we offer practical information about ways in which the complainant may be able to resolve the
issue.
Second, even if the complaint raises a civil liberties issue, if another agency is equipped to handle the complaint, we normally refer the person to that agency.
Third, if a complaint does raise a civil liberties issue, we look to see whether it involves possible changes to a law or policy. If not, we usually refer the person to a legal advice service. Concentrating our efforts on addressing laws or policies allows us to maximize the effect of our limited resources. One notable exception to this guideline is providing assistance to members of the public regarding police complaints.
Finally, where considerable resources will be required to address the issue, we assess the likelihood of success of our efforts. If it is not likely that we will succeed in challenging the law or we would need to dedicate many resources to the issue, we are sometimes forced to reject the complaint.When I let go of any expectations of how a situation will turn out, I get to keep my serenity, and the situation turns out as it should.
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Fri, Oct 19th, 2007, 12:58 AM #23bcteagirlGuest
WOW that is Great information thank you!! Won't let me give rep to you again so soon, will someone please give pwwbear some rep from me?
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Fri, Oct 19th, 2007, 01:03 AM #24
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Fri, Oct 19th, 2007, 01:08 AM #25bcteagirlGuest
thanks remarker
Chickened out of going to the gym again today, just was not up to it with everything else that was going on... soon though.
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Fri, Oct 19th, 2007, 01:09 AM #26
while on the fingerprinting topic, Japan will be a place to avoid after Nov 20 for those adverse to this procedure....
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...0X11rn4NY-x_Ww
Unlike the US program, Canadians are *not* exempt from this oneJapan to fingerprint foreigners from next month
Oct 4, 2007
TOKYO (AFP) — Japan said Thursday it will start fingerprinting and photographing foreign visitors from next month under stringent new security measures that have been criticised by civil rights advocates.
The new measures, approved by parliament last year, are expected to take effect from November 20, a justice ministry official said.
All foreigners aged 16 or older will be photographed and electronically fingerprinted when they enter Japan, under a similar system to the one introduced by the United States after the September 11, 2001 attacks.
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Fri, Oct 19th, 2007, 01:13 AM #27bcteagirlGuest
grrrr!!! Was deciding between Japan or England/France after school as a grad present.. this will play a role in my decision...
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Fri, Oct 19th, 2007, 06:45 AM #28Freebie Princess
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I remember watching a show, maybe 20/20 or something a couple of years ago and it was showing ways that the Government was going to start tracking people in the future and one of the ways was: when you go to a bank machine, instead of using your bank card, your eye will be scanned as it said that our eyes are the same as our fingerprints where no two are identical and the other way is by installing chips in people and you will also be able to speak any language with the chip. So, basically, yes, i think fingerprinting is definately a way for the Government to track people.
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Fri, Oct 19th, 2007, 01:13 PM #29cndladyGuest
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you might want to do a search for civil rights lawyers in the area...
There may be a few who would take this case probono just because it is something that would concern a lot of ppl
I have no reason to not have my prints taken..but I won't do it for a gym or school or such..
let's face it we have enough info about ourselves floating around out there on un-secure computers w/out having something like this out there too.
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Fri, Oct 19th, 2007, 01:19 PM #30bcteagirlGuest
Exactly.. thanks also a good idea.. not a large city here, but there really ought to be something here...
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