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    Good morning my Q friends. Happy Friday Going to have an AWESOME weekend. Hope you all have one also.CHEERS!!!!!
    Another day in the Colliseum with the Gladiators YAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    April 28th Birthday Bullseye guess at 11:00 am for $3,800 was # ​62 , but was incorrect.

    The next Q-2-Call will come at 2:00 pm April 28th for $3,900.

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    Greetings Earthlings , you too HG!
    Salutations with no palpitations I am sure.

    Seems the insurance companies are after the ZX bikes again,
    that is the hyper-sport category, fortunately they're always
    one step behind and we can adjust.
    They're not quite as fast as we are.
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    Good afternoon and have a great weekend. Go Marlie's Go. Off to Massy Hall tonight to see Classic albums live do Elton John, should be good.

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    2pm bullseye guess- 77

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    NASCAR SEASON is complete for 2021.
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    April 28th Birthday Bullseye guess at 2:00 pm for $3,900 was # ​77 , but was incorrect.

    The next Q-2-Call will come at 5:00 pm April 28th for $4,000.

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    Not - 77

    Have a Great Weekend everyone.

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    To the uninitiated let me just relate ,the greatest advancements
    in motorcycle technology have come as a direct result of the
    insurance companies trying unsuccessfully to make fast motorcycles
    too expensive to insure.

    Fast motorcycles are NOT the problem, inexperienced riders unequipped
    to handle them are. To solve a problem you must deal with the cause
    not the result..
    Last edited by rock lobster; Fri, Apr 28th, 2017 at 02:53 PM.

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    5pm bullseye guess- 21

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    not #21

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    They are slow drivers because their nuts are stored in the trunk

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    They're still at it but don't you believe 'em!
    5W20 oil sucks!
    Manufacturer's can only RECOMMEND oils ,not require them.
    I'd go with a 0W30 in these sewing machines but that's just me.

    Ford's 5W-20 Myth/Scam ... You might want to read this ...

    Discussion in '1994-2004 V6 Mustang Tech' started by PonyGoes, Jan 11, 2003.






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      Ok, who here with a 2001+ has gone for an oil change to find out that "Ford's" 5W-20 oil (as printed on our oil caps & owners manual) is the only oil most places will use on our cars at 2-3X the cost of other non-synthetic oils?

      Ford has managed to pull a fast one on us boys ... you should read this and save some cash and possibly your engine

      Cheers


      New for model year 2001 and Newer: Ford and Honda specify
      5W-20 motor oil
      for most all cars and light trucks.

      Ford and Honda disguise the real reason by telling customers it is better for their vehicle. DON'T BELIEVE IT! Ford even went as far as to print "Use 5W-20 oil only" in bright yellow on the oil filler cap.

      They are NOT looking out for the customers best interest. They are looking out for their best interest which ultimately results in more profit for them while all you end up with is less protection (outside of average operating conditions) for your engine and an engine which could possibly wearout sooner. Read on to learn the TRUTH behind 5W-20 and beware because more OEM's may be doing the same thing in the years to come.

      Question: My owners manual species 5W-20 oil. Do I really need to use 5W-20 oil and why did my 2000 model year vehicle require a 5W-30 oil, while the exact same engine in my 2001, 2002 and newer engines "requires" a 5W-20 oil?

      Answer: Absolutely Not! You DO NOT need to use a 5W-20 oil. Do not let your dealer scare you by telling you that you have to use it for your warranty. That is one of the biggest lies and deceptions that dealerships use to scare customers. Once you know the facts and the law you will be much better informed to protect your rights and us what is really best for your engine.

      The main reason 5W-20 was specified for your engine is to increase the CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) reported to the Federal Government. CAFE is the combined average fuel economy of all of a vehicle manufacturers product line. Minimum CAFE levels are specified by the Federal Government. In order for a vehicle manufacturer to continue selling profitable large trucks and SUV's, which typically have poor fuel mileage ratings, as compared to smaller cars, and still meet mandated CAFE requirements, they must also sell enough of the smaller cars which have much better fuel economy ratings to offset the poor fuel economy ratings of the larger vehicles. For model year 2001, the change to a 5W-20 oil will allow Ford and Honda's overall CAFE to increase by a very small amount, typically in the tenths of a mile per gallon range. 5W-20 oil is a lighter viscosity than a 5W-30 oil and therefore has less internal engine frictional losses, or less drag on the crankshaft, pistons and valvetrain, which in turn promotes increased fuel economy. This increased fuel economy is virtually undetectable to the average motorist without the use of specialized engine monitoring and testing equipment under strictly controlled test track driving when compared to a 5W-30, 10W-30 or a 0W-30 viscosity motor oil.

      Therefore, 5W-20 has absolutely no benefit to you, the customer, other than to make you have to buy their expensive Honda or Motorcraft oil (which neither Honda or Ford actually manufacturers an oil; they simply source it to the low bidder).

      Question: What are the negative aspects of using a 5W-20 motor oil?

      Answer: There are several negative aspects, the most important is that 5W-20 has less film and shear strength than a 5W-30, 10W-30 or a 0W-30 motor oil. This could possibly lead to increased and accelerated engine wear under today's demanding heat and high stress engine operating conditions as well as in severe duty use. In our analysis, there is a limit to how light of a viscosity an engine oil can go, as a light viscosity oil such as 5W-20 offers less protection than the higher viscosity and higher film strength oils do. What's going to be next 5W-10? If you operate under severe service conditions such as towing trailers, hauling heavy loads, stop and go driving in hot weather or sustained high speeds on the highway then you are even in a worse predicament. You would be much better off using either a 5W-30, 10W-30 or a 0W-30 motor oil.



      Question: Could using a 5W-30, 10W-30, 0W-30 or even a 10W-40 or 20W-50, oil in my vehicle which specifies a 5W-20 oil void my new car warranty?

      Answer: ABSOLUTELY NOT! Vehicle manufacturers only recommend using motor oils meeting certain viscosity grades and American Petroleum Institute service requirements. Whether a motor oil is a 5W-20, 5W-30, 10W-30, 0W-30, 10W-40 or 20W-50 (for racing and high performance applications in, for example, a Cobra R Mustang) or even a synthetic vs. a petroleum based oil will not affect warranty coverage. The manufacturer is required by Federal Law to cover all equipment failures it would normally cover as long as the oil meets API service requirements and specifications and was not the cause of failure. In addition, the Federally mandated Magnuson - Moss Act states that a manufacturer may not require a specific brand or type of aftermarket product unless it is provided free of charge. If your dealership continues to tell you that you must use 5W-20 motor oil and or/ a specific brand of 5W-20 motor oil, then ask them to put it in writing. Their position is inaccurate, and, in fact violates existing law.*

      Additionally, if there is ever a question of whether or not a particular motor oil was the cause of an engine failure make sure to get a sample of the used oil in a clean bottle, typically 6 oz. minimum. The oil can then be sent to two independent testing labs for analysis. This is standard procedure for most commercial vehicles, trucking, construction/excavation and fleet companies and there are numerous certified test labs all over the country. Remember, a knowledgeable and informed consumer is your best defense against being taken advantage of by a car dealership service center.

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