Blockbuster collections

[Brynhilde]

Glad I never went to Blockbuster!!

Sorry to read what you are all going through though!! I wouldn't pay and you can ask the credit collection agency to mail you proof of the supposed charges from the original invoice.

[NuCoupon]

Hmmm I wonder if some scammer stole/bought their customer list and sent bills to people hoping they would just pay them. Lots of scammers mail bills to large companies hoping the company will just pay the invoice (because the company wrongly assumes they agreed to the service/bought the item on the bill when they in fact didn't)

[taxsavey]

Ya, thats a strong possibility. Where we lived in Calgary was the WORST ever for real estate fraud in all of Canada. My friend has their house title moved out of their name and into a strangers. Buggers. So I managed to help her resolve it all thru admiralty law. Soooo many scams out there and it will get much worse unfortunately.

[taxsavey]

Oh ya, what sucked is others were paying like $25,000. to get it fixed. She paid $400. my way in total. Thats becuase it was such a massive issue, the whole price of a house.

[jrummmer]

@ taxsavey----I'm fairly effective at crafting angry letters. I had already fired off an email to Grant Thornton and Credit Bureau Services by the time I read your posts here. The legal fodder and fee schedule concept were a great boost for the registered letters I sent both of them on Thursday. I came home today to a message from CBSC cancelling the claim against me. She said something about a problem with the data transfer. That's hogwash! I believe this was/is a massive fishing expedition using a person's credit rating as bait. So they say I'm cleared; that's great, and they haven't even received the registered letters yet. But I won't rest until I have it in writing. You call them buggers but I have much stronger descriptions for people that do this! Thanks again!

If you're right about it, fight about it.

[taxsavey]

Way to go!!! It works amazing for so many things. What many people don't realize is that almost everything is done by admiralty law, but laws have been rewritten where it still applies but people don't realize it. So that corporations have the upper hand. However, education is key. Lawyers work for courts who work for corporations. Once you follow the paper work and legislation to uncover this a whole new world is opened up. This is why lawyers don't know this because they are trained by who "pays for all this" which is the corporations. Its fascinating, but cruel. I know a few lawyers who have since educated themselves and are furious. Lawyers answer first to courts, not you. So its important to know law sad to say. I'm so glad that has worked out. But yes your right to get it in writing. Becuase they can back track on all that.

[namg]

I too just received a letter demanding $50 in 10 days and I know we don't owe anything to Blockbuster. The letter is addressed to me all in caps. Taxsavey, I find what you are talking about fascinating. But I'm having a hard time understanding your instructions.

Based on the following information:

1. Grant Thornton Limited is the receiver
2. Credit Bureau Services Canada is the collector

Is this correct:

1. Determine the CEO of Grant Thornton (Phil Noble)
2. Determine Canadian head office address (19th floor Royal Bank Plaza South Tower, 200 Bay Street, Box 55, Toronto Ontario, M5J 2P9)
3. Send a registered letter to GRANT THORNTON LIMITED attention Phil Noble to the address listed above
4. Include in the letter: a) a demand for absolute proof that I owe them money b) a charge fee for unlawful accusation
5. send the same letter again after 10 days.
6. Send the same letter again after 10 days.

Your help on this is greatly appreciated.

[taxsavey]

I too just received a letter demanding $50 in 10 days and I know we don't owe anything to Blockbuster. The letter is addressed to me all in caps. Taxsavey, I find what you are talking about fascinating. But I'm having a hard time understanding your instructions.

Based on the following information:

1. Grant Thornton Limited is the receiver
2. Credit Bureau Services Canada is the collector

Is this correct:

1. Determine the CEO of Grant Thornton (Phil Noble)
2. Determine Canadian head office address (19th floor Royal Bank Plaza South Tower, 200 Bay Street, Box 55, Toronto Ontario, M5J 2P9)
3. Send a registered letter to GRANT THORNTON LIMITED attention Phil Noble to the address listed above
4. Include in the letter: a) a demand for absolute proof that I owe them money b) a charge fee for unlawful accusation
5. send the same letter again after 10 days.
6. Send the same letter again after 10 days.

Your help on this is greatly appreciated.

Yes if there is no longer a CEO of Blockbuster, then yes, the receiver of blockbuster is what you would do. So yes to number 1 and 2 and 3. Number 4 you need proof that you rented it. So they need to show you the receipt and proof of payment and whatever else you can think of. Location etc etc. However the money is a charge for your time. Its not so much about truly trying to collect on it as it is about keeping them out of your way where they are liable. So you charge for any contact with lack of proof. And if they do have proof, they are on shaky ground becuase you could put that into collections and be a pain in the ass back at them. 5 and 6 yes, However one more letter, the third one means judgement as SOON as its sent. They are using admiralty law on you right now because your name in capitals by law is not you, its a corporation. You objecting and doing the what I have highlighted has put you back in the seat of control. And yes, it works.

[taxsavey]

The collector of Credit bereau? What the heck? That is super dirty. This will clear your name. Its like Bell Mobility, they only keep signed agreement with you for 6 months. Then it goes into a wharehouse and 99% of the time, they can't find it to dig it up, especially with only 10 days to deal with it. By the way, 10 days INCLUDES weekends.! Cheers Once you have your judgement, send copies to that credit Beaureau.

[taxsavey]

This is what I pm'd cochise:

It should be to the CEO of Blockbuster Canada. Also it should be labeled a NOTICE OF DEMAND at the top and in the paragraph it should say this is a NOTICE OF DEMAND. I XXX(In capitals) request xxxx info of proof of amount allegedly owed, you have 10 days to produce these documents. Failure to do so alleviates any obligation of XXXX (your name in capitals just as it appears that they put down) of any debt owed to you by XXXXX. Pm me a copy and I can make changes and email it back to you. I think you should use the payment schedule to, they don't want to owe money.

[ann_017]

I got the same thing for $109.71, can anyone post an example letter? Dont need this affecting my credit!

[taxsavey]

Okay, I think I should do an example letter!
Have a normal business header with their ceo name and address.
Have the date it was sent
Also your address and
in the middle, above the paragraph in capitals and in bold have: NOTICE OF DEMAND.

To Whom it May Concern,
I Jane Doe received a letter to JANE DOE from XXXXXX. You have ten days to produce proof of a business transaction with BLOCKBUSTER CANADA by means of a receipt, location, account number use and name and method of payment. We also demand proof of all previous coorespondance you have sent JANE DOE either from BLOCKBUSTER CANADA or GRANT THORNTON LIMITED. Failure to do so alleviates JANE DOE and Jane Doe of all obligations to pay claimed amounts owing. Consider this NOTICE OF DEMAND your notice of my charge fees for my time. From here on in, any attempt to contact JANE DOE or Jane Doe from either BLOCKBUSTER CANADA, GRANT THORNTON LIMITED or any other corporation representing alleged claim, either by mail, phone or email and/or any other method is as follows: First time $1000. second time within 6 months is $20,000. and third time within 12 months is $100,000. Consider this NOTICE OF DEMAND in effect.
Cordially, Jane Doe
Remember that irregardless if they answer or not, you must do all three letters right after each other. Best to them immediately consecutive of each other as indicated. This gives them less time to gather info and also the third one is judgement unless they contest it. Keep me posted. If they contact you WITHOUT proof, its just a bluff and will hold in your favor as legal judgement on the third letter.Oh, its good if you can put CC on the bottom to anyone as proof of what was written as well so they can't change it.

[taxsavey]

These guys are definately being shady if that many people are comming forward and know they didn't rent and have a late fee. Whats ignorant is putting the credit bereau in the scheme of things right off the bat. No previous correspondance and they are doing that? That is criminal. Once your third letter of judgement is solidified. Then you can copy proof of your registered letter, and all three of these copies which is preferable if they are cc'd, and send that to the credit beureau stating you want it taken off. IF they don't, and often they aren't as quick about fixing mistakes as they are instigating unproven threats, you can then do three letters to them with a payment fee. The difference would be you give them 10 days to take off the blockbuster issue if they put it on bad credit. stating they agree to said amounts being owed to you by them if they don't provide evidence of taking it off! If they don't do the sequence of three letters and put it into another collections agency! That gets action!

[taxsavey]

Hmmm I wonder if some scammer stole/bought their customer list and sent bills to people hoping they would just pay them. Lots of scammers mail bills to large companies hoping the company will just pay the invoice (because the company wrongly assumes they agreed to the service/bought the item on the bill when they in fact didn't)

You know whats sad, is its probably a legit company. They have no morals. They do it strictly because they get away with it. Remember just because the law recognizes it doesn't mean its not wrong and outrageously criminal. Its just acceptable written word. So thats why its so important to defend yourself.

[Hey You]

Just joined and thought I would post in this thread.

Its funny how people who don't owe money are getting collection notices, yet I owed $60 and haven't received one yet.