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    call now!

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    Lawrence's guess: crime of the centrury - wrong....

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    Once again I didn't get through but LAWRENCE did!!! He guessed crime of the century and was WRONG!!!


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    i was caller 5 & 87

    Burning my way through another year!

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    Wow, 8,000 on the line at 7 40 tonight!!!!! Bet a lot of peoples are scratching their heads right about now!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl Stiel View Post
    i was caller 5 & 87
    I haven't even tried calling the last few days.... I still have no idea for a guess...

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    I feel very badly for these marine animals held in captivity like this to live out their lives in small pools. They should be out roaming for miles and miles freely every day in the waters they were captured from - where they belong. They should not be moved around from pool to pool and made to suffer alone Regardless of what you think of marineland you have to agree these animals should not be "kept" like this for money and entertainment - WHEN WILL PEOPLE EVER LEARN and think of the poor animals not themselves




    Marineland: Killer whale bleeding for months, trainer says

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    Video: Marineland killer whale bleeding
    Kiska's tail has been bleeding off and on since July, according to her former trainer Christine Santos.








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    Kiska, the killer whale, swims alone in her pool at Marineland, often followed by a trail of her own blood.
    Her tail has been bleeding off and on since July but has been getting progressively worse, according to Christine Santos, who has been one of Kiska’s primary trainers. She described the bleeding as “gushing” last week.
    Marineland lawyer Andrew Burns emailed the Star Tuesday saying allegations described by the paper were “seriously inaccurate, false, and if published are defamatory of Marineland, its veterinarians and Mr. Holer.”
    Burns wrote: “(The reporters), along with the Star, have failed again to take necessary and appropriate steps to confirm the accuracy of the serious allegations you make.”
    The Star had asked Marineland Monday about issues with Kiska, beluga Charmin, as well as with equipment. That day, a company spokesperson called the allegations “seriously inaccurate.”
    No alternative information was provided.
    The Star obtained recent video of Kiska showing a blood trail from cuts in her tail. Once one of Marineland’s best show animals, Santos said she now spends her days swimming listlessly and scratching parts of her body against the sides and sharp fibreglass grates that run the circumference of her Friendship Cove pool.
    Treating her is difficult because Kiska, about 37, has refused to go into the medical pool for the past month. Her behaviour has been “breaking down for some time,” said Santos. She won’t even present her tail for blood samples.
    Santos believes there aren’t enough trainers to give Kiska and 39 beluga whales enough attention at Friendship and Arctic Coves.
    Santos was fired Wednesday. She said she was asked to sign a document that included a statement she’d never seen animal abuse at Marineland. She didn’t sign because “it didn’t feel right.”
    In an email, administrative director Tracy Stewart wrote: “Marineland respects that employee/employer relationships are private and confidential.”
    PHOTOS: Charmin, the beluga whale, bleeds while stuck on a trailer
    Other whales have been bloodied at the Niagara Falls tourist park. On Apr. 11, 2012, after female beluga Charmin was left on a trailer when a crane jammed during a move to another pool, photos show the area soaked with blood.
    In a recent Star investigation, former staffers blamed ill health, even death, among sea mammals on sporadically bad water and a lack of sufficient trainers.
    The Ontario Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals launched an investigation, which is still ongoing. Community Safety Minister Madeleine Meilleur announced a wide consultation to beef up animal welfare laws in Ontario and explore licensing zoos and aquariums.
    In a subsequent email Tuesday evening, Burns wrote it is “simply not appropriate, while the (OSPCA) investigation continues, to engage in a debate through the media regarding the condition of Marineland’s animals or the quality of its care.”
    It’s illegal in the U.S. to keep killer whales alone and, and the OSPCA Act says captive wildlife “must be kept in a compatible social group.”
    Last April, staffers moved two belugas, Tofino, a male, and Charmin from Friendship Cove to the performing stadium pool. At the end of Charmin’s move, the crane set to lift her in a sling over to the pool jammed, and she was stuck on the flatbed, her tail thrashing against the metal slats and edges of the trailer, according to former senior trainer Phil Demers.
    “It was one of the worst days of my life,” says Demers, who helped in the move. “It went on for at least an hour. . . . There was blood on Charmin, on the ground, on the side of the pool, on the pads — it was sprayed all over. The worst, though, was that she lay there all that time with the pressure of her heavy weight (about 1,350 kilograms) on her internal organs — so bad.”
    Demers said trainers insisted on putting an extra pad under her tail. Without it, he says the cutting would have been even worse.
    A month later, Demers quit after 12 years because he could no longer “train animals that were sick and compromised.”
    Demers said he saw other animals being cut during moves between pools, even when cranes worked properly. Usually, they are placed in slings, then put on pads on a trailer and, at the other end, lifted by crane and into a different pool.
    In an interview, Santos said she has seen Kiska cut her dorsal fin on the sharp fibreglass grates, adding “we cut our fingers on them all the time.”
    She doesn’t know if Kiska cut her tail on the grate or the sides of her pool, but she’s worried about her. She said there are seven or eight trainers for Kiska and the 39 belugas (six pregnant) at Friendship and Arctic Coves, adding she always feels hurried because there’s so much to do . . . there aren’t enough people to spend time with Kiska and the others.”
    Santos said the 27 belugas at Arctic Cove “ have hardly any attention because we just have time for strictly feeding.”
    The Canadian Association of Zoos and Aquariums asserts that Marineland’s animals are “in overall good health.” The self-regulating industry association began an investigation into the park after the Star series and said there were “no major issues.”
    However, in a statement released two weeks ago, CAZA raised issues about water quality in three pools, saying there was “an impact on the well-being of the animals,” and ordered Marineland to fix the problem.
    In a phone interview about Kiska, Bill Peters, CAZA national director, said: “To the best of my knowledge, there wasn’t evidence of bleeding at the time of our (on-site) inspection. (Aug. 23).”
    OSPCA agent Brad Dewar said he couldn’t comment about Kiska because of the ongoing investigation.
    Veterinarians June Mergl and Erica Gehring did not return phone calls from the Star.
    Kiska has never been a strong whale, according to former trainers, including Santos, who say she’s constantly on medication. Her pool is concrete with the fibreglass grates along the side and a few large rocks on the bottom.
    She was captured off Iceland in 1981 and developed what one former trainer called “an incredibly close” connection with Nootka, another wild-caught Icelandic whale, and “they hated to be separated.” They swam constantly together and vocalized, even having their own calls. They even supported other through labour, with Kiska having four calves. The oldest died at 6.
    Santos said Kiska began declining after her 4-year-old calf Athena, as well as Nootka, died a few years ago.
    “I love her dearly,” Santos said. “I am worried about her because she is alone. She vocalizes a lot. I feel as if she is calling out for another whale.”


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    Not an easy task but managed to get my likes caught up. Now getting set to pedal home(still dry) & start my weekend!

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    Experimenting on the piano with my daughter (who actually has a clue, she teaches piano, I merely payed for 13 years of lessons, x2 kids), it is the lowest and second lowest C# keys played together. If you have a piano handy, try it. Now if I could figure out a way to use that information.




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    Quote Originally Posted by psells View Post
    Experimenting on the piano with my daughter (who actually has a clue, she teaches piano, I merely payed for 13 years of lessons, x2 kids), it is the lowest and second lowest C# keys played together. If you have a piano handy, try it. Now if I could figure out a way to use that information.
    Sorry... what does the # mean after the C?

    (Can you tell I never took piano lessons - at least none of any value.... )

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    I'd like to help out with the song but...............






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    here'the note it's C# (c sharp) if you don't have a piano go to http://www.virtualpiano.net/ to play---it's the 1st black note---makes it easier to compare the note to the music. my daughter & I say it's a single note on the contest--not a chord (those that think it's Elton John's goodbye yellow brick road will be wrong (that's a chord ie. 3 notes at once to sound like 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee03 View Post
    Sorry... what does the # mean after the C?

    (Can you tell I never took piano lessons - at least none of any value.... )
    I don't play either, but it the # means sharp.
    try the virtual keyboard (much to high a tone to be really helpful)
    http://www.bgfl.org/custom/resources...iano/index.htm

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    Sounds like a chord to me, and some slight drop in pitch as the note sustains, could it be a bass in behind the piano playing the same note?

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