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Yes - I could do a lot with 3 days on and 2 days free.
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No. I don't want to work to 80 years of age.
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I am retiring at 55. Freedom 55 Baby!
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Keep the 40 hour work week. Don't mess with success.
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Thread: 25 Hour Work Week? Yes or No?
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Sun, Feb 24th, 2013, 02:54 PM #31
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You make some good points.
I have noticed that neighbours are trying to outdo each other with purchases.
A couple of years ago, the federal government was giving a tax incentive if you do home renovations. Some neighbours went into debt to get the tax rebate. So, in fact, they did not win -- they lost. Paying interest on their loans.
Our neighbour asked why we weren't doing renos. We told them we did not have the money. They told us to borrow and were surprised when we said we don't like debt -- only borrow if we had an emergency we had not saved for.Last edited by Shwa Girl; Mon, Feb 25th, 2013 at 11:58 AM.
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Sun, Feb 24th, 2013, 03:37 PM #32
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When I had my son two and a half years ago, I knew I would not be able to return to work full time for a bit. I am fortunate that we paid off debt and that DH has a very well paying job. This has allowed me to work in my field for a great company close to home for a very decent salary - all that at a part-time schedule of 3 days a week.
For us, it works. I need the two extra days to go to personal appointments, do errands, grocery shopping, chores around the house without DH and DS underfoot. But this is not a situation for everyone. I think you need to plan it very carefully.
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Sun, Feb 24th, 2013, 04:18 PM #33
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actually i do 27 hrs per week, since last september.... almost forgot about that!
You can't change other people. You can only change yourself"
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Sun, Feb 24th, 2013, 05:10 PM #34
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Sun, Feb 24th, 2013, 05:43 PM #35
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and people will get frustrated because nothing is open when they want it to be open... there will be no one to staff the stores, stock the shelves.. companies won't be able to meet production needs (shortages), banks won't run (now a days we want our banks open late and 7 days a week) so either we'll have many gaps in the workforce.. or things won't be able to sustain.. i think there would be more debt.. people wouldn't be able to retire.. people wouldn't be able to buy a home.. cost of living is going up.. i don't think it would adjust
When life hands you Edward Cullen...throw him back and demand Eric Northman....
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Sun, Feb 24th, 2013, 06:20 PM #36
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Story time. We had a new grad at work - 22. She was scheduled to work afternoons and 2 Sats. per month. After she got the job and passed the probation period, she informed us that she has boyfriend commitments and would not work on Saturdays So other staff took her Saturday shifts. She stayed for a year.
Colleague in another region tells me that some of the 22 - 24 year old females who work with them seem to come, stay for 1-2 years, go on mat leave and don't return.
My point: it seems to be happening already. And, some Older workers are not retiring because of financial reasons and are happy to keep working, filling the gap.
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Sun, Feb 24th, 2013, 08:47 PM #37
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LMAO boyfriend commitments?? seriously?? i would have probably informed her tough.. you cannot pick and choose your shifts... if it's school... religious reasons ok.. but boyfriend? so if they break up she can work them? work is work.. you work around it not it around you (i guess that makes me sound old though i'm really not that old..) heck... it's planning for the future.. when you get older.. get married there are often rather large chunks of time where you don't get to "spend the day" with your partner (opposite shifts, never getting days off together)
it isn't uncommon for younger female in that 22-25 range to get married.. then start a family to come back to the workforce when they hit their 30's (kids in school age) but most often when the female stays home to raise the kids.. the partner is working full time to pay the bills (it just isn't economical to pay for full time childcare often in the 800+ per month range)When life hands you Edward Cullen...throw him back and demand Eric Northman....
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Mon, Feb 25th, 2013, 09:26 AM #38
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I have had the boyfriend commitment story too, not for an ongoing issue but wanting Fridays off to go see him in grad school for the weekend several times
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Mon, Feb 25th, 2013, 09:36 AM #39
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Well, I work in a unionized environment and no one gets 3 months off, unless the environment you worked allowed the use of sick leave as vacation (which is a big no-no). The highest here is 9 weeks and that's someone who's been here for more than 28 years (8 weeks vacation) plus 1 week of pre-retirement leave.
Aside from the issue of workers using tax money to be paid, what is your point about government workers working part time being better for society? Work ethics aside, the wages these people earn help the economy. Reduce their wages and everyone in their community suffers. If they can only have enough money for basics like rend and groceries, they're not spending into their community, supporting local business, who in turn will have to lay off workers if revenues go down. And it goes on from there into a downward spiral.
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Mon, Feb 25th, 2013, 10:06 AM #40
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You can start earning a reduced CPP at 60. It's the Old Age Security pension that's been bumped to 67 for Canadians born later then 1962. And if you're diligent about saving money into an RRSP, there are good chances that when you start cashing them in, your income will be high enough to go over the threshold to have your OAS clawed back.
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Mon, Feb 25th, 2013, 10:15 AM #41
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Yes, and with the arrival of the boomers on the scene, they wanted to made sure to get rid of the deadwood to make room for the new blood. Governments and businesses are shooting themselves in the foot by forgetting that enticing older people to leave with a pension should be part of the employment cycle. It's the situation we have now. Older workers are staying put because they need the money to survive, while the younger kids can't get their foot in the door.
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Mon, Feb 25th, 2013, 10:32 AM #42
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Of course, everyone has a choice, but people stuck in such a situation are not completely to blame. We've been brainwashed since we're little kids by businesses telling us we're inadequate and they'll fix us if we buy their products. In a book I was reading recently, the author commented on the fact she walked into a shopping mall a confident mature woman, only to walk out feeling like a failure because every business in there was designed to make her feel her lack. No one is immune to comparing themselves to other people. In fact, comparing yourself to someone else and judging how well you're doing in comparisong will affect your level of happiness. And one way to measure that is by the possessions you have.
Whoever here hasn't heard they need to have $1,000,000 in investement before they retire? It's not about the investments per se, but the fact they create a fear in you that you'll never achieve it without working more (and their help, of course). The more you need to save, the more you'll work to catch up. A good book on the subject is "Why Swim With The Sharks" by Canadian authors Diana Salomaa and Henri Dembicki.
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Mon, Feb 25th, 2013, 11:27 AM #43
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I am posting with a caution.
Newer employees can learn from the guide books. Some skills and competencies are NEVER learned from books, or a degree. On the job training using mentorship from skilled and competent coworkers or managerial staff, cuts so much time of the probationary learning process. Some older workers have the street smarts, especially those working with the public, and can guide a newbie through so much -- the older teaching the younger -- still a valuable asset, IMHO.
Example: I was in a hospital visiting a friend. They were in a room with 3 other patients. One patient had so many problems -- even finding a vein for an IV was hard. After trying and poking the person for an hour (we heard the "Ow" comments and moans behind the divider), they called in "super IV nurse". She was much, much older. She calmed the patient (her tone was so calming, she even calmed me). The IV was in in 5 minutes. So if "super IV nurse" left, that hospital floor would have a serious gap in good quality workers.
Older does not equal dead wood in MANY cases.Last edited by Shwa Girl; Mon, Feb 25th, 2013 at 11:37 AM.
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Mon, Feb 25th, 2013, 11:33 AM #44
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Mon, Feb 25th, 2013, 11:50 AM #45
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