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    Quote Originally Posted by Insane View Post
    My husband's friend/acquiantance was killed in a car accident a number of years ago. The girl driving the car was drunk. Her coworkers knew she had been drinking (she was drinking at work). The charges were dropped on what I consider a technicality. Something to the effect that the police officers on the scene had no cause to administer a breath test so the breathalyzer and blood test were thrown out of court. End of case. This girl got behind a wheel and killed someone and gets to walk free like you and me with absolutely ZERO reprecussions. That I find worse then lax sentences.
    That's awful.

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    Was just reading about this MT, and all I can say is the justice system is wrong here. Getting out on parole, is to me, like getting your life back. Oh sure, it's not all fun and freedom, but the restrictions are far from severe. So in 7 years she could walk out on parole for master-minding a murder?? Sick. And her lawyer says she is "unlikely to reoffend". So....in his mind if she serves only 7 years for what she did, that's okay as long as she doesn't kill anyone else?? Anyone that is capable of murder, whether they directly killed the person or they set everything up, deserves to rot, period.

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    I don't think there was anything else the judge could have done. He gave her the strictest sentence possible. Giving her a youth sentence would have been even worse. The family of the girl who was killed was happy with his decision. 7 years sounds really bad but she won't necessarily get out that early. She could actually be in jail for life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty Smyth View Post
    Sometimes the system is unbelievable.

    Here's what's going on here.

    A man has been accused along with his wife and son of "allegedly" murdering their 3 oldest daughters and his first wife in what is being labelled "an honor killing". This is still unproven but they were arrested on this basis. Now this is totally unreal, disgusting , vile and something that if true should NEVER be tolersted in our country and they shold be punished to the max and sent back to Afghanistan.
    Oh Patty, don't even get me started on the whole "honour killing" issue! You know my thoughts on the running of the bulls and the tomatoe fights, so I'm sure you can only imagine.


    As for the MT sentencing...she can apply for parole in 7 years because of the "Faint Hope Clause" in our justice system. This was added to encourage prisoners to rehabilitate themselves. The rational is that if they had NO hope of getting parole then they would cause havoc in the prison system and make more problems, endangering others especially the guards. I'm not saying that I agree with this part of our justice system, I'm just throwing the info out there.
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    Okay, this is kind of random and diverging off topic slightly but did any one here know that Anne Perry, the famous novelist, is a convicted murderer?

    When she was a teenager, her and her friend put a brick in a sock and bludgened the friend's mom to death. They served only a few years in juvie then they were released and each given new identities. I think the only condition of their parole was that they not contact each other again.

    I just think it is scary that we have many many people in society who have committed murder and they could be living right next door. I'm not talking manslaughter, an accident that results in someone's death.... I mean cold blooded murder. And yeah, in all likelihood this manipulative girl from the Rengel case will get out in 7 years too.

    I do not agree with the Youth Criminal Justice Act, or at least I don't think it should apply in cases of homicide. If someone can kill someone else in cold blood or order for them to be killed there is something wrong "upstairs" and they are a threat to society..... I don't care how young they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecountess View Post

    I do not agree with the Youth Criminal Justice Act, or at least I don't think it should apply in cases of homicide. If someone can kill someone else in cold blood or order for them to be killed there is something wrong "upstairs" and they are a threat to society..... I don't care how young they are.
    I agree, this act should not be used in cases of murder. It's supposed to protect kids and teens who do stupid things like smoke pot, not those who actually pose a risk to Canadians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lekate View Post
    I agree, this act should not be used in cases of murder. It's supposed to protect kids and teens who do stupid things like smoke pot, not those who actually pose a risk to Canadians.
    Exactly.....minor offenses like that are often a result of peer pressure and a good kid falling in with a bad crowd. Most kids like that, once removed from the bad influence will turn around and not re-offend in any way.

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