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[NikyK]

I just thought I'd share my opinion on this issue...
altho it seems like this is the first time that this has happened on sc with Sully frauding tons of ppl to this extreme...

ive seen the exact same thing happen on ebay.
I had purchased an item on ebay from a seller and received it promptly...
i decided to go through their items for sale about a month afterwards since I had such a good experience and they had an amazing feedback,
i noticed that they had no items for sale and that their account had been disabled
I was shocked!
Turns out about 2 weeks after my purchase from this seller, they went nuts took everyones money who has recently paid him and didnt ship out any items!
within a month he had 200 negative ratings from people who were frauded from him!

So altho it may be a first on SC to this degree.. unfortunately there are ppl like this out there

Yep, things happen, but on e-bay you`re protected, at least if you use PayPal...and I think for the any purchases at least over $5, people usually use PayPal, so, no problems at all, you did not get your item, you`d get your money back...

[Lunamoth]

Yep, things happen, but on e-bay you`re protected, at least if you use PayPal...and I think for the any purchases at least over $5, people usually use PayPal, so, no problems at all, you did not get your item, you`d get your money back...

Only if the seller still has an active bank account. Happened to me once. Seller took the money and removed her banking information from Paypal. So when I filed a dispute, I won but they weren't able to get my money because her banking information was gone. I had to wait 6 months for her to add banking info to her Paypal account before I got my money back. In the end the joke was on her but if she never started using Paypal again I would have been out of money.

[uniquelyme]

Lunamoth: eBay and Paypal have changed a lot of their practices lately. If it's an eBay transaction and you win a dispute, you get the money back regardless of whether they have funds in their account. (Depending when your transaction was, this might have been the policy during your bad experience. Paypal just continued to send out the "there's no funds to collect" message even after their buyer protection plan said that wasn't the case!) If it's not an eBay transaction (i.e. on another web site or store) then you aren't protected - the seller has to have funds to recover. It's best to always use a credit card for funding payments. That way if Paypal finds in your favour but doesn't refund, you can simply do a chargeback and Paypal can't hold it against you!

[hollyquaiscer]

Sally a day late, but I am so sorry to hear about your little fur baby. I know my little Marley has filled the empty nest void and she is my fur baby. Would rip my heart out if something was to happen. I wish you all the best.

[guccigoo22]

Oh my!!!! I've been offline for a few days moving (UGH), and all this crazyness pops out!

So just to clarify... is Justdoit2008 a no go for trades? I was offered GC's in exchange for quite a few FPC's, and just waiting for an address... should I be holding off?

[Jezebel]

Oh my!!!! I've been offline for a few days moving (UGH), and all this crazyness pops out!

So just to clarify... is Justdoit2008 a no go for trades? I was offered GC's in exchange for quite a few FPC's, and just waiting for an address... should I be holding off?

someone is in a trade with them right now I saw it posted in the new trader sticky...

[mcminsen]

Oh my!!!! I've been offline for a few days moving (UGH), and all this crazyness pops out!

So just to clarify... is Justdoit2008 a no go for trades? I was offered GC's in exchange for quite a few FPC's, and just waiting for an address... should I be holding off?

Yes! In fact, run away from that as fast as you can!

I think it was determined that justdoit2008 has the same IP address as sulley1234. Put the brakes on that trade!

[mcminsen]

If you want to read up on justdoit2008 (a.k.a. sulley1234?), start at this post:

http://forum.smartcanucks.ca/3596944-post2350.html

[guccigoo22]

Yes! In fact, run away from that as fast as you can!

I think it was determined that justdoit2008 has the same IP address as sulley1234. Put the brakes on that trade!

Thank you sir! What a sad situation this is! I do have to give a ginormous thanks to everyone here who cares so much for SC, and takes the time to help eachother with matters like this!

Once again, thanks Sally, for all your hard work, even with all the awful things you have going on right now! Just read your recent medical bout, and with your poor fur baby, I would think matters like this would come dead last, yet here you still are, as always. Hugs and hopes for health are being send via super special mind waves tonight!

[Lunamoth]

Lunamoth: eBay and Paypal have changed a lot of their practices lately. If it's an eBay transaction and you win a dispute, you get the money back regardless of whether they have funds in their account. (Depending when your transaction was, this might have been the policy during your bad experience. Paypal just continued to send out the "there's no funds to collect" message even after their buyer protection plan said that wasn't the case!) If it's not an eBay transaction (i.e. on another web site or store) then you aren't protected - the seller has to have funds to recover. It's best to always use a credit card for funding payments. That way if Paypal finds in your favour but doesn't refund, you can simply do a chargeback and Paypal can't hold it against you!

Thank you Uniquelyme. It was a while ago with Ebay but things change. Good to know. Well good for me to know, not sure how the husband will respond to my Ebay shopping.

[Valiant]

1. Is Boo Radley now aware of this entire matter?
2. What is being done about 'Sulley1234' defrauding SC members?
3. How is it that some people can sign up on SC with different usernames, but with the same IP address, and go undetected until they've committed multiple frauds?
4. Since we do have this person's address, is SC taking action regarding these frauds with a Postmaster Alert at Sulley1234's home address or reporting this to RCMP?

While having another sticky may be of some value, it will soon become very cumbersome and confusing to wade through all the pages of posts, just like it is when reading through this one. I feel we need less talk, more action when it comes to matters of such a serious nature.

[2010ontest]

1. Is Boo Radley now aware of this entire matter?
2. What is being done about 'Sulley1234' defrauding SC members?
3. How is it that some people can sign up on SC with different usernames, but with the same IP address, and go undetected until they've committed multiple frauds?
4. Since we do have this person's address, is SC taking action regarding these frauds with a Postmaster Alert at Sulley1234's home address or reporting this to RCMP?

While having another sticky may be of some value, it will soon become very cumbersome and confusing to wade through all the pages of posts, just like it is when reading through this one. I feel we need less talk, more action when it comes to matters of such a serious nature.

Valiant, you have the adresse of this person because you have trade with this person, you could do it for yourself, this is an action that you could do

[FallenPixels]

I know from an ebay transaction gone wrong (back when paypal didn't reimburse unless the bank account was attached) that you have to wait to report it until at least 6 weeks after it was mailed as right now (especially with the strike) the could just be late mailings - while it is obvious to us from the trade volume, there are still legal obligations the police will have to follow.

In my case, I had paid for express shipping and they still made me wait 6 weeks before I could make a police report to get the money back from my CC. Given that these would be mailed regular mail and there was the strike/lockout - I doubt there is much Boo can do for several weeks

[hogama]

1. Is Boo Radley now aware of this entire matter?
2. What is being done about 'Sulley1234' defrauding SC members?
3. How is it that some people can sign up on SC with different usernames, but with the same IP address, and go undetected until they've committed multiple frauds?
4. Since we do have this person's address, is SC taking action regarding these frauds with a Postmaster Alert at Sulley1234's home address or reporting this to RCMP?

While having another sticky may be of some value, it will soon become very cumbersome and confusing to wade through all the pages of posts, just like it is when reading through this one. I feel we need less talk, more action when it comes to matters of such a serious nature.

Valiant -- if you have their mailing address, put them on a junk mail list... such as Billy Graham, etc and flood their mailbox!!!!

[FallenPixels]

3. How is it that some people can sign up on SC with different usernames, but with the same IP address, and go undetected until they've committed multiple frauds?

Many IP companies use shared IPs and some people log on from work or public computers. There are two other people in my work building who occasionally use SC. If there was a one IP rule, two of those people would not be able to sign up. Also IPs can change. Some refresh every time you sign in (usually dialup/sattelite/mobile connections) while others once a month etc. So it is impossible to stop signups under the same IP nor signups from the same person