OMG Another school shooting!! :( :( :(

[i_forget]

My ex-BIL is a cop in England.
From what i understand, he feels that the police should be armed, but he is ex military and was a prison officer at a maximum security prison before he joined the force.....so he has a unique view on these things.
From what I gather, they have general guys that deal with basic issues, they send the "tougher" guys to the calls that require muscle and they send the guns to the situations where they need guns.

[vesper]

Remember that mass shooting by the racist guy in Norway a year or so ago? Shot all those young people? If I am not mistaken, it over half an hour for the police to get permission to use guns. Even if the police don't arm themselves, they should at least have arms in the car somewhere to employ if required.

[lecale]

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[Darth Penguin]

Darth, if you see this, I know you were born and raised in England where the police don't carry guns (correct me if I'm wrong). I'm really curious what your opinion is on police carrying guns?

I have no problem with profressionally trained marksmen carrying weapons.

in England the "regular" police do not carry guns, however they do have special units that do.

In England,Scotland and Wales that is correct. Northen Irish police are armed but for a whole variety of reasons.

My ex-BIL is a cop in England.
From what i understand, he feels that the police should be armed, but he is ex military and was a prison officer at a maximum security prison before he joined the force.....so he has a unique view on these things.
From what I gather, they have general guys that deal with basic issues, they send the "tougher" guys to the calls that require muscle and they send the guns to the situations where they need guns.

As long as he understands that a lot of British civilians disagree with him, including a lot of former military servicemen and women. Personally, I've never heard of some-one take that career route. It's normally military, police and then prison officer.

[FallenPixels]

I know at least three ex prison officers who went on to become Metro-police in London

[Natalka]

The funerals have all been held.

Simply can't phathom what these families are all going through - my thoughts and prayers are with them all.

[Dee09]

Thoughts and prayers to those families, friends and the community.

[Darth Penguin]

I know at least three ex prison officers who went on to become Metro-police in London

okay..I stand corrrected on this.

[gryphon]

Just a side comment, but whatever discussion of racism playing a role in gun ownership in the states makes me wonder, because after what I saw today it definitely is not the case in Canada.
I went to a gun store to get some ammunition for hunting trips.

I was the only white person there in a crowded store ( besides one employee). A large mix of people of different ethnic groups and races. All buying gun stuff.

[frugal50]

Just a side comment, but whatever discussion of racism playing a role in gun ownership in the states makes me wonder, because after what I saw today it definitely is not the case in Canada.
I went to a gun store to get some ammunition for hunting trips.

I was the only white person there in a crowded store ( besides one employee). A large mix of people of different ethnic groups and races. All buying gun stuff.

especially in toronto i might add!

not to change the subject, but when they show crowds of shoppers on boxing day

98% of shoppers in the boxing day sale line up, were either asian or southeast asian

or any retail mall/stores for that matter

not a single white face in the crowd.

[lekate]

especially in toronto i might add!

not to change the subject, but when they show crowds of shoppers on boxing day

98% of shoppers in the boxing day sale line up, were either asian or southeast asian

or any retail mall/stores for that matter

not a single white face in the crowd.

Not to be rude, but who cares? I actually am not sure how to respond, I can't tell if it upsets you that Toronto has a large multicultural population or not.

Everyone wants to score a good deal, doesn't matter what colour their skin happens to be.

But maybe living in a largely homogenous Asian population for the past four months has changed my perspective. I doubt it though.

[Patty Smyth]

1 month tomorrow

and sick people like this think it was a staged hoax, I can't imagine what the families think of this.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/pr...-staged-87934/

Biden to speak to families

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2464281.html

Remains of killer collected by father
http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/newtown-...ther-1.1096291

[frugal50]

anyone who thinks it was a hoax
still believes elvis is alive
and princess diana's death was a conspiracy
bunch of idiots, who can't face the truth!

[gryphon]

http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nati...home-1.4441678

A White Plains residence pinpointed on a controversial handgun permit database was burglarized Saturday, and the burglars' target was the homeowner's gun safe.
At least two burglars broke into a home on Davis Avenue at 9:30 p.m. Saturday but were unsuccessful in an attempt to open the safe, which contained legally owned weapons, according to a law enforcement source. One suspect was taken into custody, the source said.
The gun owner was not home when the burglary occurred, the source said. The victim, who is in his 70s, told Newsday on Sunday that he did not want to comment while the police investigation continues.
The police are doing a full investigation," the man saidthrough a partially opened front door.
There was broken glass in the backyard Sunday and a ladder leading up to a second-story window. Neighbors on the street of modest, Colonial homes said they had heard about the burglary.
The homeowner's name and address were included recently on the controversial interactive map of gun permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties published on The Journal News' website.
Neighbor John Mascia said he thought the gun permit database should not have been published.
"I could [not] care less what they have in their home," Mascia said.
Police are investigating what role, if any, the database played in the burglars' decision to target the home, the law enforcement source said.
White Plains police Lt. Eric Fischer confirmed that a burglary occurred but would not release further information Sunday.
The Journal News has been the target of sharp criticism from gun rights advocates and some media ethicists since running the story and interactive map Dec. 23. The story was published 10 days after the Newtown, Conn., mass shooting that claimed the lives of 20 young children and seven adults.
A call for comment to The Journal News was not immediately returned.
Although some good-government groups have come to the defense of the White Plains-based newspaper, some elected officials, including State Sen. Greg Ball (R-Patterson, have complained the permit map could aid criminals.
"If the connection is proven, this is further proof that these maps are not only an invasion of privacy but that they present a clear and present danger to law-abiding, private citizens," Ball said Sunday in a statement.
On Monday, Ball will introduce a third bill into the state Legislature intended to keep the names of those who have gun permits private.

[vesper]

It's going to be ugly the day a burgler is shot by the home owner. Putting that map on-line was a sick and disturbing thing to do. Ironically, these media types tend to be strongly against maps of where pedophiles live.

http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nati...home-1.4441678