Are You Syria-us?

[vesper]

No one has any fricken clue what is going on with Syria?

- Isn't Obama/Kerry using the same pro war argument that Bush used
- Wasn't Kerry and Obama the most vocal against it?
- Obama now see's Al Queda as an ally who needs air support in Syria to topple the government? McCain supports this?
- Most of Libya is run by warlords and thugs
- Egypt experiment handing over power to thugs turned out horribly
- I recall just a few years ago, Kerry and Obama slammed Bush for being hostile towards Assad... calling him a reformer and having diner with him?
- Fashion Mags were doing fluff bits on the Assads

Goodness this crap is driving me up the wall! In the meantime, brave people in the intelligence community are being treated like pawns and assessments being completely ignored.

Regardless of what happens, things are going to get really ugly and the proof is in the fact the president wants to share the blame by getting everyone to support him. Won't happen, he owns this it belongs to him.

[Darth Penguin]

Obama doesn't bomb Syria..he's in big doo-dooo

Obama does bomb Syria..he's in big doo-dooo

It's a no win situation for the current President of the USA..

UK parliment voted against strikes while the French are in favour..

US Senate

A US Senate panel has approved the use of military force in Syria, in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack.
By 10-7, the Committee on Foreign Relations moved the measure to a full Senate vote, expected next week.
The proposal allows the use of force in Syria for 60 days with the possibility to extend it for 30 days. It prevents the use of US troops on the ground.
President Barack Obama is battling to build support at home and abroad for military action.
Despite Wednesday's vote, the bill's ultimate fate in the wider Senate is unclear. And the US House of Representatives must also approve the measure.

[lecale]

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[vesper]

He caused this mess by destabilizing the country the past 18 months, guess he reckoned it was s easy as all the other countries he put into turmoil. For better or worse, these are his problems and he outta start trying to figure out what he is doing before he does anything else.

Obama doesn't bomb Syria..he's in big doo-dooo

Obama does bomb Syria..he's in big doo-dooo

It's a no win situation for the current President of the USA..

UK parliment voted against strikes while the French are in favour..

US Senate

[Patty Smyth]

He caused this mess by destabilizing the country the past 18 months, guess he reckoned it was s easy as all the other countries he put into turmoil. For better or worse, these are his problems and he outta start trying to figure out what he is doing before he does anything else.

Not following you, which "he" and what country did he destabilize?

[Patty Smyth]

Frankly I am sick of the U.S. butting in on everyone's business

U.S. currently occupies or has bases in over 100 countries. Mostly to secure natural resources in case of global war.(mostly oil and fresh water)

[Jina]

Frankly I am sick of the U.S. butting in on everyone's business

Me too. It's like the US is the government of the world and has to do something everytime. Well they don't have to.
If they get in Syria business, what's the next attacked on the US? Sarin in Times Square?

[Darth Penguin]

WASHINGTON—As President Obama continues to push for a plan of limited military intervention in Syria, a new poll of Americans has found that though the nation remains wary over the prospect of becoming involved in another Middle Eastern war, the vast majority of U.S. citizens strongly approve of sending Congress to Syria.
The New York Times/CBS News poll showed that though just 1 in 4 Americans believe that the United States has a responsibility to intervene in the Syrian conflict, more than 90 percent of the public is convinced that putting all 535 representatives of the United States Congress on the ground in Syria—including Senate pro tempore Patrick Leahy, House Speaker John Boehner, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, and, in fact, all current members of the House and Senate—is the best course of action at this time.
“I believe it is in the best interest of the United States, and the global community as a whole, to move forward with the deployment of all U.S. congressional leaders to Syria immediately,” respondent Carol Abare, 50, said in the nationwide telephone survey, echoing the thoughts of an estimated 9 in 10 Americans who said they “strongly support” any plan of action that involves putting the U.S. House and Senate on the ground in the war-torn Middle Eastern state. “With violence intensifying every day, now is absolutely the right moment—the perfect moment, really—for the United States to send our legislators to the region.”
“In fact, my preference would have been for Congress to be deployed months ago,” she added.
Citing overwhelming support from the international community—including that of the Arab League, Turkey, and France, as well as Great Britain, Iraq, Iran, Russia, Japan, Mexico, China, and Canada, all of whom are reported to be unilaterally in favor of sending the U.S. Congress to Syria—the majority of survey respondents said they believe the United States should refocus its entire approach to Syria’s civil war on the ground deployment of U.S. senators and representatives, regardless of whether the Assad regime used chemical weapons or not.
In fact, 91 percent of those surveyed agreed that the active use of sarin gas attacks by the Syrian government would, if anything, only increase poll respondents’ desire to send Congress to Syria.
Public opinion was essentially unchanged when survey respondents were asked about a broader range of attacks, with more than 79 percent of Americans saying they would strongly support sending Congress to Syria in cases of bomb and missile attacks, 78 percent supporting intervention in cases of kidnappings and executions, and 75 percent saying representatives should be deployed in cases where government forces were found to have used torture.
When asked if they believe that Sen. Rand Paul should be deployed to Syria, 100 percent of respondents said yes.
“There’s no doubt in my mind that sending Congress to Syria—or, at the very least, sending the major congressional leaders in both parties—is the correct course of action,” survey respondent and Iraq war veteran Maj. Gen. John Mill said, noting that his opinion was informed by four tours of duty in which he saw dozens of close friends sustain physical as well as emotional injury and post-traumatic stress. “There is a clear solution to our problems staring us right in the face here, and we need to take action.”
“Sooner rather than later, too,” Mill added. “This war isn’t going to last forever.”

It is, of course...The Onion..

[vesper]

Not following you, which "he" and what country did he destabilize?

Obama - Syria.
And not a single person is willing to risk supporting Obama on this, he is on his own. Good!! It's demoralizing to ask the military and intelligence community to support Al Qaeda rebels just to help save Obama's face. If those folks want to be free.... pick up a stick and fight for it.

[vesper]

It is, of course...The Onion..

Now that is funny actually.

[DaveP]

No doubt if the US strikes Syria they will have more terrorist attacks on their soil. Bush brought on 9/11.

Wait, what? Bush didn't bring on 9/11, he had only been President for nine months when 9/11 happened and hadn't done anything internationally. Or do you mean the first Bush and the first gulf war (1991)? I think that's when Osama really got his hate on for the US (not because he was a fan of Saddam but because he found US bases on Saudi territory to be a sacrilege).

[Patty Smyth]

Wait, what? Bush didn't bring on 9/11, he had only been President for nine months when 9/11 happened and hadn't done anything internationally. Or do you mean the first Bush and the first gulf war (1991)? I think that's when Osama really got his hate on for the US (not because he was a fan of Saddam but because he found US bases on Saudi territory to be a sacrilege).

Let's not forget OBL got his training from the CIA because the US wanted Afghanistan to defeat the Russians.

Bush II did have warning in memo form of possible attacks on US soil by OBL and his loopy gang but chose to ignore it.

[Patty Smyth]

Anyway the biggest pusher for action is not even Obama, it's McCain a.k.a. Mr. War Monger.

If he would have been president I can't imagine how many countries they would be in now.

[Darth Penguin]

Obama - Syria.
And not a single person is willing to risk supporting Obama on this, he is on his own.

British sources say the leaders of France, Turkey, Canada and the UK gave strong backing to President Obama's call for military action. The UK Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne said the Turks put a "very strong argument about how the world must respond to the use of chemical weapons".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23982181

[Darth Penguin]

On Syria, an issue on everyone's lips though not on the summit agenda, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said Thursday there was little prospect of common ground with all G20 nations. That's despite the addition of a meeting of approximately nine foreign ministers this week.
"We've got to be very realistic. Nobody is coming here anticipating success. This is fundamentally an economic forum," said Baird, who met with counterparts from France and Australia.
"Obviously when you have this type of crisis, with the significant use of chemical weapons in recent weeks, there's no doubt that casts a shadow. What we hoped to have was a good dialogue on these issues. But certainly I and the prime minister were realistic that at this forum we weren't likely to come to a conclusion."
Putin greeted Harper with a polite handshake outside of the sprawling Constantine Palace as the prime minister arrived for the start of the G20 meetings. But there was no lingering chit-chat, nor was there between Putin and U.S. President Barack Obama or French President Francois Hollande — all leaders who support a military strike against Syria.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...reduction.html