Father Shoots Up Daughters Laptop After Facebook Post

[Patty Smyth]

Would there be such an uproar if he didn't take a gun to the laptop? If he had just snapped it in half?

I think saying that this teenager is now going to kill herself is extreme and dramatic - just like her little speech on Facebook.

In my view his blowing the crap out of the laptop is just as childish as her rant. Way to go to show your teen how to solve problems, blow them away. Over dramatic ?? No he is just a whack job, with a gun.

What a fine example of a man he is sitting there in all his redneck glory, butt hanging out of his mouth, searching for the proper words in order to humiliate her, speak english much, not?

I have a teen and I would never think of humiliating him beyond belief like that.

Geez let me remind all of us what a recently humiliated dad to to his teens. He pushed the car in the river and killed them all. Shafia family ring a bell?

His "I'll show you" attitude is repulsive. He is no man that's for sure.

[ex0ticb3lla]

His comment actually surprised me as I thought deep down all guys ( even most Canadians who don't have weapons in their homes ) were sort of closet vigilantes.
That attitude of an eye for an eye. Maybe I have watched too many movies.

I hope the family can repair, heal, and move forward with their lives after this, but since the Dad has brought his disappointment and feelings of being betrayed front and centre it's a given that their circle of friends, relatives, church members or complete internet lurkers will be gossiping, commenting and possibly humiliating her/them further so I don't see this ending well.
Do I think this could drive her to suicide? No. Sounds like her ego is too inflated for that. I do suspect she will retaliate for sure, but I think she will point her anger and actions at her Dad, so I hope he has that gun secured well.

you do watch a lot of movies. My father and husband are not and never will be an eye for an eye kinda guys, can't speak for any other man in north america.

everyone is talking about how upset she must be or depressed she may be over the outcome of this. But, do any of us really know that!? We DO know that the father was obviously embarrassed and fed up with HER actions. So why speculate on what you DON'T know.

Sorry, but I have to agree with whoever said, don't judge til you have walked in their shoes. most of you are completely right when we say we don't know the dynamics of what went on at home (but I still stand by the fact that she's really not in harms way at all). You also don't know if she was a spoiled, rude, arrogant, self absorbed, sass talking, lazy teenager (just like 85% of them out there), but i'm judging by the rant and curse words she used in that letter, that she probably is

[ex0ticb3lla]

In my view his blowing the crap out of the laptop is just as childish as her rant. Way to go to show your teen how to solve problems, blow them away. Over dramatic ?? No he is just a whack job, with a gun.

What a fine example of a man he is sitting there in all his redneck glory, butt hanging out of his mouth, searching for the proper words in order to humiliate her, speak english much, not?

I have a teen and I would never think of humiliating him beyond belief like that.

Geez let me remind all of us what a recently humiliated dad to to his teens. He pushed the car in the river and killed them all. Shafia family ring a bell?

His "I'll show you" attitude is repulsive. He is no man that's for sure.

and yet it was compeltely okay for her to humiliate her parents publicly?? why is that part diminished. I would be utterly embarrased if my son posted that on FB. I take pride in my parenting and if he posted even half of what she said I would be HUMILIATED beyond words.

eta: and as far as him searching for the words to humiliate her, I know he stumbled a few times when talking and on his FB page he's raising money for MDA, he may possibly have something going on he doesn't wish to share, so insulting his speech and the fact that he had to search for words is kind of a low blow

[Valiant]

and yet it was compeltely okay for her to humiliate her parents publicly?? why is that part diminished. I would be utterly embarrased if my son posted that on FB. I take pride in my parenting and if he posted even half of what she said I would be HUMILIATED beyond words.

eta: and as far as him searching for the words to humiliate her, I know he stumbled a few times when talking and on his FB page he's raising money for MDA, he may possibly have something going on he doesn't wish to share, so insulting his speech and the fact that he had to search for words is kind of a low blow

Nobody is saying that the daughter's behavior can be condoned; but posters are saying that the dad's violent reaction to her behavior is extremely violent, destructive and potentially dangerous (homicidal).
Of course he's humiliated by his daughter's actions. But he needs to find his way through this parenting mess, and without a loaded gun in his hand.

[ex0ticb3lla]

Nobody is saying that the daughter's behavior can be condoned; but posters are saying that the dad's violent reaction to her behavior is extremely violent, destructive and potentially dangerous (homicidal).
Of course he's humiliated by his daughter's actions. But he needs to find his way through this parenting mess, and without a loaded gun in his hand.

omg i just have to walk away from this thread - homicidal tendancies ...really??.

I actually looked at my husband last night, after I posted my rant on here, and said "people actually think that guy would turn the gun on his daughter, or think he's a psycho for posting it and using a gun" he laughed, and said "well I guess we can hope that their teenagers are as good as gold, so they don't ever have to be put in the situation to parent in an unconventional way"

[Valiant]

Well, the police thought so, and the truth is yet to unfold, if this family violence escalates any further.
I have known cases of fathers who have killed their children with guns.
And in the US, there are statistics to prove my point, sad to say.

[Lynn49]

Valiant, no one is saying that parents don't kill their children.
What we ARE saying, or attempting to say, is that until you or anyone else has experienced this kind of kid, that they should refrain from judging the father.

Like I said before: No one KNOWS what they're capable of, as a parent, unless they're pushed to the limit, and snap. There is such as thing as parental abuse....that is, the abuse of a parent, and that kid is the poster-child!

Let's not judge him unless we've walked in his shoes.

[DianneS]

Ah, yes.....our little 'rebelious' teenagers.....just talk WITH them, and everything will be sorted out just fine.
Well I'm here to say that sometimes NO amount of talking WITH some teens does a crap-load of good! Some teens, like that dame, have problems that go far deeper than just normal teenage rebellion. It's obvious from some of the comments on here, that there are precious few of us who have had to deal with a teen whose behavior bordered on psychotic and vindictive. A teen that NO amount of talking WITH heard a single word that was spoken. Teens that no amount of counselling can help.
It's amazing what an egomaniacal, narcissistic kid like that could drive you to do.

She's fortunate he didn't aim the gun at her and pull the trigger! THAT'S what really can happen!

This little princess got a rude awakening and although she may have a few friends she hangs with who think her dad was....like...waaayyy overboard in his actions, I'm sure there are more who think it was time she was kicked off her self-made pedestal. She won't commit suicide, either. Too self-absorbed for that.

And saying...gee whiz...and wondering if the 'family dynamic' made her such a disrespectful, snarky, disgusting human being is no excuse for her behavior. There are teens who have been through much worse, and rose above their situations.

Sometimes teens cannot be saved. Maybe this one can.
Or she can leave, like our son did at age 15, and try to make it on her own out there.
And only after exhausting her friends' goodwill, living on the streets alone, she may finally come to terms with what she put her family through and try to make amends and be welcomed home again.

Does it happen? Just ask me.

I'm the one who raised the issue of the family dynamic. My view is that we saw one side of this story and are missing a lot of detail. As someone who has raised two teen-agers, I certainly understand his frustration. In the case of this video, I think there are two sides to every story and the truth is usually somewhere in the middle. The teen is being painted as 'the devil' but some folks are assuming that the father doesn't have issues of his own. Maybe family counselling would be more effective for these folks than a gun and public humiliation. If he has truly run out of options and all he has left is a gun and a video to make his point then he needs help fast for his sake and his daughter's sake. If he hasn't, and thinks this is a funny way to get back at your kid then that is truly sad.

And there is no"excuse" for the way either of them behaved....

[Miss_April]

Well I think eveyone knows where I stand on this situation and I won't be commenting any further.

Thanks for the good debate.

[win-star]

I don't agree with some stuff what the guy says ... but I do agree to 1 part that I remembered from the video is that some teens complains about doing chores around the house and not being paid ... I agree with that .. cuz the parents buy them things ... and plus what he says about his daughter coming home and only doing certain things ... if that's true then maybe the daughter has some other issues where is express her anger in something else.

But I don't agree how at the end he shoots up the laptop, I personally would of just taken it and give it back at the appropriate time.


I want his gun

[Patty Smyth]

and yet it was compeltely okay for her to humiliate her parents publicly?? why is that part diminished. I would be utterly embarrased if my son posted that on FB. I take pride in my parenting and if he posted even half of what she said I would be HUMILIATED beyond words.

eta: and as far as him searching for the words to humiliate her, I know he stumbled a few times when talking and on his FB page he's raising money for MDA, he may possibly have something going on he doesn't wish to share, so insulting his speech and the fact that he had to search for words is kind of a low blow

If you(the general you) are a parent you better grow a thick skin pretty fast because this letter is NOTHING compared to what I have heard out of teens mouths lol.

He deserves every bad thing being said about him and until he learns that good parenting doesn't involve "getting even", "i'll show you", "look what you made me do" abusive attitude then he is going to continue to take flak from many people myself included.

It doesn't matter what is going on behind the scenes. We are seeing and judging what he has put out there and if you post on youtube and go public then you better be prepared to hear about it. She only posted that letter on her FB page and he is the one that went searching for it.


If he was insulted by a fairly harmless rant in that letter, let's be serious the letter was hardly earth shattering, I would hate to see what he does if she ends up with real serious problems like drugs or alcohol abuse.

That letter was mild, typical, teenage ranting, and I have heard way worse from teens sitting around a table at McDonalds.

[Lynn49]

I agree...his actions seem absolutely inappropriate, and yes, one should be able to control one's reactions...but all I'm saying is that everyone has a breaking point and evidently he reached his. I can't judge him...I don't know the full story. I do know I've been there, so I know what it feels like to reach the end of the rope with a kid.
I hope the entire family gets help before something really tragic happens.
I have to edit that...I do NOT think anything tragic will happen at the hands of this dad...his daughter, I'm not too sure about. Princesses are entitled, and she may be more danger than anyone else in this scenario.
He was not out of control...he was very controlled in his response. He just took away what he provided for her, she abused, and he took it away in a way that her pleading and promises to behave can't bring it back.
Save your money, missy, for your own toys!

[Patty Smyth]

I agree...his actions seem absolutely inappropriate, and yes, one should be able to control one's reactions...but all I'm saying is that everyone has a breaking point and evidently he reached his. I can't judge him...I don't know the full story. I do know I've been there, so I know what it feels like to reach the end of the rope with a kid.
I hope the entire family gets help before something really tragic happens.

I think that we all agree we have breaking points but do her actions warrent such a reaction? If his outburst is an accumulation of many previous rants on her part or other behaviors then it is also his fault for not dealing with the issues as they arose.

You don't shoot the horse and then say well maybe we should have tried to fix his leg first. Know what I mean?

Anyways I am outta this thread, I have zombies to post for Miss April.

[roseofblack25]

What I don't get is why the parents just couldn't have taken the laptop away instead of destroying it? Seems like such a waste to destroy something expensive to make a point...I would be afraid of what he could do with a gun to me if he has no problem video taping himself blasting a computer full of holes. What would stop him from turning the gun onto an actual person. Believe me my dad is a hunter and we have lots of hunting equipment in the house. He would have never even thought to shoot up something of mine when I misbehaved no matter how mad he was.
There are much more effective ways to deal with bratty kids LOL!

[SharonMe]

I agree...his actions seem absolutely inappropriate, and yes, one should be able to control one's reactions...but all I'm saying is that everyone has a breaking point and evidently he reached his. I can't judge him...I don't know the full story. I do know I've been there, so I know what it feels like to reach the end of the rope with a kid.
I hope the entire family gets help before something really tragic happens.
I have to edit that...I do NOT think anything tragic will happen at the hands of this dad...his daughter, I'm not too sure about. Princesses are entitled, and she may be more danger than anyone else in this scenario.
He was not out of control...he was very controlled in his response. He just took away what he provided for her, she abused, and he took it away in a way that her pleading and promises to behave can't bring it back.
Save your money, missy, for your own toys!

He may have looked in control but I saw a lot of repressed rage.
I don't think he was wrong to take away her laptop as she abused that privilege but shooting it full of bullets and videotaping it for posterity is a little disturbing. The writing from his daughter and his video are both full of the same anger. The apple didn't fall far from the tree. His response to her disobedience was to do just what she did and worse. What is the lesson he's teaching his daughter? He's teaching her that it's alright to purge your anger on the internet.
The better response from him would have been to sit Hannah down and have a talk with her. Tell her her read her writing and is disappointed that she felt the need air their dirty laundry in public instead he went ahead and took a dump on the pile of dirty laundry!