H1N1:.I think i got decent info worth sharing *********

[mcminsen]

Yikes. I'm immune suppressed and my doctor is recommending the H1N1 vaccine. Hmmm...

[roseofblack25]

I think if it becomes mandatory will be the only way I will get it...I stopped reading cause everything was bad about it LOL then again you cant trust everything on the internet 100%
wish there was more information available because everything I am finding is either from the states or UK nothing much for Canada at all...
going to go to the health unit tomorrow to see what they think because my doc cant see anyone till middle of november he is so booked so cant talk to him I dont have that much time to decide so they suggested going to talk to the health unit but I am going to assume they are going to be all for me getting it...

[Andit]

Yikes. I'm immune suppressed and my doctor is recommending the H1N1 vaccine. Hmmm...

I'm in the same boat. Are you expected to get the flu shot every year? I try to avoid it best I can, since I always seem to get the flu shortly after I get the shot (Dr swears it's a coincidence, but it's happened 3 times).

Still not sure what I'm going to do.

[tasha313]

litesandsirens : my point is for people not to get vaccine lol unless they really have to

[RobynCD]

Let us not forget the government conspiracy that will have all who receive the H1N1 shot turn into zombies! That's my reason right there for not getting it!

[tasha313]

Let us not forget the government conspiracy that will have all who receive the H1N1 shot turn into zombies! That's my reason right there for not getting it!

for the ones who mentionned are immune supressed, then the risk is higher if you dont get the vaccine.

[travelgeek]

I am not getting this or the regular flu vaccine. Last year was the first time ever I got a flu vaccine and that was because my doctor insisted as I was travelling to a high risk Avian flu country.

[Sally888]

Yeah none of us are getting it... I wrote a thread last month about how the general population will be the guinea pigs.

[Sally888]

It would never be mandatory Rose. NO VACCINE IS. Rose I wouldnt personally listen to the health unit. Seriously read up about the Swine flu vaccine in the 1970's.

Heres something i was just reading...

Dr. Blaylock is a board certified
neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. He attended the LSU School of
Medicine in New Orleans and completed his general surgical internship
and neurosurgical residency at the Medical University of South
Carolina in Charleston , SC.

Dr. Blaylock does not recommend the new vaccine ….annother opinion for
you to consider as you decide whether to get one or not.

DR. RUSSELL BLAYLOCK ON SWINE FLU:

"No one should take this vaccine-it is one of the most dangerous
vaccines ever devised. It contains an immune adjuvant called squalene
(MF-59) which has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such
as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus. The newsletter for August
covers this and it may not be out yet. This is the vaccine adjuvant
that is strongly linked to the Gulf War syndrome, which killed over
10,000 soldiers and caused a 200% increase in the fatal disease ALS
(Lou Gehreg disease). This virus H1N1 kills by causing a "cytokine
storm", which means that it cause the body's immune
system to overreact and that is why it is killing young people and is
a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have weakened immune
systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune stimulator and
carries the real possibility of making the lethality of the virus much
greater.

One's best protection is vitamin D3.. One should take 5000 IU a day
now and when the disease begins to spread increase the dose to 15,000
IU a day. Vitamin D3 modulates the immune reaction, reducing the
chance of an overreaction and stimulates the body to produce what are
called antimicrobial peptides, which are powerful killers of viruses
that does not involve immunity. This is dose related, which means the
higher the dose of vitamin D3 the better the protection.

Fish oils (the best is Carlson's Norwegian lemon flavored fish oil)
also reduce immune overreaction. One teaspoon a day should be
sufficient. For severe symptoms, one teaspoon twice a day.
Antioxidants of various kins also help-this includes, quercetin,
curcumin, gr apeseed extract, vitamin C and natural vitamin E. A good
multivitamin/mineral is also essential.

[roseofblack25]

yep sally that was what I was reading!!!!
at first I thought it was mandatory for all health care workers/providers till I went back and re read the letter we got LOL then it was a huge relief that I wasnt being forced to be a guinea pig...I am sooo not getting it I think I will start taking vitamin D and carry sanitizer around with me and hope I dont get it haha

[curt81]

I never get a flu shot.

[Natalka]

Sally, I sure don't want to start an 'argument', but Dr. Blaylock's assertions are disputed by many...

The adjuvant used in the Canadian vaccines is safe and benign - as determined by the World Health Organization (WHO) experts.
http://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/to.../en/index.html
http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/healt...safety_en.html
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-ale...n1-eng.php#vac

[roseofblack25]

has anyone been able to find the ingredients for the canadian shot yet??? I want to know what is in it if I knew that then I might feel better about getting it...

[Natalka]

Rose, everything is on the CDN government site - they update regularly
Below is from :
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/prodp...in-eng.php#a51

AREPANRIX™ H1N1
AS03-Adjuvanted H1N1Pandemic Influenza Vaccine

What the medicinal ingredient is:
H1N1 influenza antigen from A/California/7/2009, NYMC X-179A (H1N1)v strain and AS03 adjuvant
What the important nonmedicinal ingredients are:
Thimerosal,a mercury derivative is added as preservative. Each dose contains 2.5 micrograms of mercury. Other ingredients include: squalene, vitamin E, polysorbate 80 and trace amounts of egg proteins, formaldehyde, sodium deoxycholate and sucrose.
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There are two vials mixed together before the shot is given -
List of Excipients

Antigen suspension vial: Thimerosal, sodium chloride, disodium hydrogen phosphate, potassium dihydrogen phosphate, potassium chloride, water for injections. The drug substance contains trace residual amounts of egg proteins, formaldehyde, sodium deoxycholate and sucrose.
Adjuvant emulsion vial: sodium chloride, disodium hydrogen phosphate, potassium dihydrogen phosphate, potassium chloride, water for injections.


Health Canada -
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/prodp...vaccin-eng.php

Public Health Agency of Canada -
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-ale...vaccin-eng.php

[roseofblack25]

thanks!!!
its supposed to be the thimerosal and that AS03 Adjuvant that is supposed to be bad for us though so still unsure what I'm going to do but there is sooo much out there saying its bad and soo much saying its good that you cant really believe much of anything...