US Ambassador "killed in Libya"

[MortgageQueen]

Not a tip DH666. . . .just a plausable defense to a blanket description of religion. Have a great night!

[Darth Penguin]

I wish people would stop giving atheists "tips"

hey...us Agnostics need a few pointers too, you know...

[Patty Smyth]

Based on the grammar of that report alone, I would be skeptical until verified by more reliable sources. If it were true, the world press would be all over it. . . . (I don't mean that in any offensive way Patty. . .as your obviously a smart lady)

In regards to being an athiest. . . I respect how a lot of religions may make you feel that way, but look at it this way:

I could use many different objects but let's just look at an airplane for example; incredible invention

You can use an airplane for good: carrying people to visit loved ones, transporting emergency supplies to disaster zones, transporting mail
OR. . you could use them for evil: namely bombing and killing innocent people.

Does that mean you should hate airplanes? or never fly in one? Probably not. Rather, you would make sure the one you chose to use was made well, reliable and trustworthy,piloted by a qualified (preferably non-violent pilot, was made and used according to the manufacturer's instructions and probably could withstand very close inspection and scrutiny.

Similarly, religion should be closely scrutinized. If GOD is the most powerful entity in the universe, maybe it would make sense to really read his "manufacturer's guidelines" (aka bible) and see if a religion really holds up. I agree many religions have much blood on their hands, but not all.

As you all have clearly agreed. . . killing and murdering does not describe a God of Love.

stunned silence

been there , done that read the books, made an informed decision, please no tips I am offended

[Darth Penguin]

too true Patty....evil is in the heart of man.

Deciding to blame god/devil/superatural enitites is removing responsiblity like a first-grader saying " miss, s/he made me do it" rather than take responsibilty for one's own actions..

[MortgageQueen]

I'm certainly sorry if I offended you Patty, but as I said to DH666, sometimes labelling "all" religion in the same breath as murderers can make one a tad defensive too. . . .

[DH666]

I'm certainly sorry if I offended you Patty, but as I said to DH666, sometimes labelling "all" religion in the same breath as murderers can make one a tad defensive too. . . .

All she said that she is glad she is an atheist. No labelling of all religions, just a statement based on this particular act.

[Darth Penguin]

thumps DH666...us non-athiests peeps want a fair crack of the whip..too you know.

[MortgageQueen]

All she said that she is glad she is an atheist. No labelling of all religions, just a statement based on this particular act.

It is inferred by the context your honour. . .

[DH666]

It is inferred by the context your honour. . .

Really? You seem to know what she was thinking when she made the statement? I doubt it.

[Lynn49]

And now two more US marines killed in an attack...I'm so angry right now! What right have those people got that gives them to right to KILL?! I say everyone pull out and like Dave said, let them fight it out among themselves until only two are left. Then we can put them in an arena and settle the whole damn thing!
How DARE they??!!! I'm incensed!

[DH666]

I just wonder what makes them so angry that they want to kill?

[Lynn49]

DH, I think they just feel defeated, you know? Like in that song...."no where to run, baby...no where to hide..."...they lash out at anything that isn't of 'them'. It just breaks my heart to see Tahrir Square in Cairo and the bridge we walked on in such turmoil...we met some lovely people there and I just hope they're safe and not involved in the anger and destruction.....
I also think, and it's just my opinion, that they get ... what's the word ... revved up by those who want to do harm to the US, whether it's the Taliban or whoever...I'm sure it doesn't take much to have people believe that their hardships are caused by another country...another race...it's happened before...

[Darth Penguin]

Film-maker arrested for parole violations

A man linked to an anti-Islam video that sparked riots across the Muslim world has been held without bail after a hearing in Los Angeles, California.
A judge said Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, 55, was a flight risk and cited a pattern of deception when making her ruling.
Nakoula was investigated for violating probation terms after he was released from prison in 2011 for bank fraud.
He has not been detained over the contents of the inflammatory video.
Nakoula, a 55-year-old Christian originally from Egypt, allegedly produced the 14-minute trailer for the film Innocence of Muslims.

[vesper]

Doesn't that justify all this killing? I don't get passionate about political stuff, but I do get rather riled up when 'Freedom' is blamed as the culprit for provoking other people to commit violent acts.

It equally riles me up when the very people who do risky jobs to protect those freedoms are scorned and attacked for doing it.

Obama killed Osama and we love Obama, but we still despise the CIA, Navy, Border Agents, State Department Operatives etc etc who actually put themselves at risk to do the job.

The stupid youtube video is not what caused all this violence.

OK my rant is over. One day that rant could be a crime which would make me a criminal and an outlaw. Love me while you can.

[Andit]

Film-maker arrested for parole violations

Timing is everything, tho, isn't it? I suspect he is indeed a flight risk (I know I would be if I had a fatwa against me ).

It is interesting how the media shapes the population's views towards certain film-makers (i.e., Roman Polanski).