All Purpose Politics and News Thread

[Ciel]

Tweets on Twitter have been indicating that Washington Dulles airport and JFK airport in New York City have protesters gathered because of the executive order signed yesterday preventing anyone with citizenship (dual or not) from seven countries from entering the US for the next 90 days. So people cannot board flights to the US or get stuck at international arrivals. The order also affects Canadians with green card visas-if they leave, they cannot re-enter the US. Lawyers at JFK are trying to find out who is being detained.

Noticed that someone tweeted Berlin mayor's comments on what a wall can do to people, based on Germany's own experience.
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/sta...38118504058880

In New York, a federal court stayed the travel ban order in relation to two specific men due to the ACLU's action. http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14...mmigration-ban

[FallenPixels]

Interesting fact, but visas from most countries can be used to only allow one entry. I got into an issue with it the first year I lived in Canada with an over zealous border agent. Once he took me to another area to speak to a higher up, he shrugged and said yeah it is a rule but not one we enforce, just there to allow us to say no if we think the person is not here for the right reasons (or you return days before the visa expires etc) and sent me on my way.

[Darth Penguin]

They are or were stopping people who had a legal right to live in USA.People with dual citizenship and people with green card, ie one step below citizenship.

Personally I think this law enacted by Executive Order is not only bad but it has been horribly enforced since there is/was no real guidance given to it's institution.As such it's been left up to individuals to interpret the law rather than a countrywide set of rules and regulations to guide officers in their duty.

[Darth Penguin]

5 dead in Quebec Mosque shooting

Five people were killed after gunmen opened fire in a Quebec City mosque during evening prayers, the mosque's president told reporters on Sunday.
Earlier, a witness told Reuters that up to three gunmen fired on about 40 people inside the Quebec City Islamic Cultural Center. Police put up a security perimeter around the mosque and declined to comment to reporters about the incident.
"Why is this happening here? This is barbaric,” said the mosque's president, Mohamed Yangui.
In June 2016, a pig’s head was left on the doorstep of the cultural centre.
Yangui, who was not inside the mosque when the shooting occurred, said he got frantic calls from people at evening prayers. He did not know how many were injured, saying they had been taken to different hospitals across Quebec City.
Incidents of Islamophobia increased in Quebec in recent years amid a political debate over banning the niqab, or Muslim face covering. In 2013, police investigated after a mosque in the Saguenay region of Quebec was splattered with what was believed to be pig blood.
In the neighboring province of Ontario, a mosque was set on fire in 2015, a day after an attack by gunmen and suicide bombers in Paris.

[Natalka]

^ Gee, that's awful!

[gryphon]

We have names of the suspects according to the police scanner, Bashir al-Taweed and Hassan Matti.

[lecale]

We have names of the suspects according to the police scanner, Bashir al-Taweed and Hassan Matti.

The shooter, Alex Bissonnette, is a white Quebecer who supports Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen, and the Israeli Defence Force on Facebook.

[gryphon]

The shooter, Alex Bissonnette, is a white Quebecer who supports Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen, and the Israeli Defence Force on Facebook.

Yeah turns out the above were witnesses

[lecale]

Yeah turns out the above were witnesses

The witness that got caught up in the confusion was Mohamed Khadr.

The other names are just made-up names that were promoted by neo-Nazi websites, who claimed they were Syrian refugees that entered Canada last year and were responsible for the attack. You know, blame/throw suspicion on the victims.

This is what they are talking about when they say "fake news".

[DaveP]

The shooter, Alex Bissonnette, is a white Quebecer who supports Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen, and the Israeli Defence Force on Facebook.

He 'liked' Trump's page, Le Pen's page, the IDF's page, the NDP's page and Jack Layton's page among many others.

He never wrote an expression of support for any of the above.

But by all means, lets blame this on Trump and Israel. The NDP sure dodged a bullet there.

[lecale]

He 'liked' Trump's page, Le Pen's page, the IDF's page, the NDP's page and Jack Layton's page among many others.

He never wrote an expression of support for any of the above.

But by all means, lets blame this on Trump and Israel. The NDP sure dodged a bullet there.

Oh really? Apparently Bissonnette was very active on Facebook, posting white supremacist, anti-immigrant and anti-feminist dogma:

ICYMI:

Alleged Quebec Mosque Shooter a Pro-Trump Troll, Says Classmate
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/a...says-classmate

He was also a big fan of Le Pen, and he shared that on Facebook by harassing refugee charities:

ICYMI:

A local group dedicated to welcoming refugees, Bienvenu aux réfugiés, said Bissonnette’s name was familiar to them, describing him as an online troll who had denigrated refugees and expressed support for Marine Le Pen, the leader of France’s far-right Front National.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-murder-charge

[seylz_gurl]

The list of concerned countries that the Trump administration outlined in the order is based on the one signed into law by the former Obama administration.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattves...hoose-n2278021

[walkonby]

The list of concerned countries that the Trump administration outlined in the order is based on the one signed into law by the former Obama administration.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattves...hoose-n2278021

yes but Trumps admin is trying to say Obama " started " this and it is simply not true.

Trump claims his ban on immigrant travel to the U.S. is just like an order President Obama gave in 2011.

Not even close

Here is what happened when Obama was Pres.

There was a delay in processing Iraqi refugees in 2011 after it was discovered that two Iraqi refugees living in Kentucky had been involved in roadside bombing attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq.
One of the refugee’s fingerprints were found on a detonation device in Iraq, prompting U.S. immigration, security and intelligence agencies to use federal databases to rescreen about 58,000 Iraqi refugees in the U.S. and more than 25,000 Iraqis who had been approved to enter the U.S., but had not yet been admitted, Department of Homeland Security officials testified at the time.

The Kentucky case not only caused a backlog in processing Iraqi refugees in 2011, but it also resulted in an overhaul of the refugee screening process.
The Obama administration’s actions were limited to one country and in response to a specific threat — the potential for other Iraqi refugees to take advantage of a flaw in the screening process.

By contrast, Trump ordered a far wider ban — albeit also temporary — without identifying a specific threat.

Also today Sean Spicer ( press Sec) came out swinging again " correcting " a reporter who asked a quiestion about the travel ban saying " it is NOT a travel ban, it is extreme vetting!
Then later another reporter asked him why Pres Trump just tweeted this morning about the travel ban? If it is not a ban why is the Pres still calling it that?

Funny, Spicer tried to " double speak " and back track to save face for his pres by saying " the media " called it that so he is just using what the media said......oh my lord!
This is so hard to watch.
Everyday a new batch of comments are made by the Republicans side and when the true facts are presented to them, ( so they are caught in a lie ) then they just spin what they first reported.....

[Darth Penguin]

Jewish centres around US being hit with wave of bomb threats

Days after a Texas mosque was destroyed in a fire and a right-wing Internet troll murdered six worshipers at a Quebec mosque, at least 17 Jewish Community Centers across the U.S. have been targeted with bomb threats and evacuated, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports. This is the third wave of such threats to Jewish centers in January alone.

On January 9, bomb threats were reported at JCCs in Florida, New Jersey, Tennessee, Maryland, South Carolina, and Delaware; on January 18, as many as 27 bomb threats were reported at JCCs across 17 states. No explosives have been found in any of the reported incidents thus far.
In West Orange, New Jersey on Tuesday, nj.com reports that a woman called the center saying, “There is a bomb in the building”; when asked where, she said “I’m not going to tell you that” and hung up. After the previous series of threats, the Anti-Defamation League issued a security advisory “urging all communal institutions to take these threats extremely seriously.”









Donald Trump, whose close circle of advisors include a Jewish son-in-law and multiple white nationalists, has been winking at Nazis for some time now. Most recently, Trump sent out a statement on Holocaust Remembrance Day—the same day his White House announced their Muslim ban—that omitted the Jewish people entirely. “The president went out of his way to recognize the Holocaust,” spokesman Sean Spicer said defensively in response to the outcry, adding that “by and large he’s been praised for [the statement].”
This is, of course, not accurate. Even ultra-right wing financier Sheldon Adelson’s organization came out against it, though they assured themselves that the omission was an accident; it’s been noted that one of the few sources of praise for Trump’s revisionist statement is neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer.

[GatineauGirl]

Also today Sean Spicer ( press Sec) came out swinging again " correcting " a reporter who asked a quiestion about the travel ban saying " it is NOT a travel ban, it is extreme vetting!
Then later another reporter asked him why Pres Trump just tweeted this morning about the travel ban? If it is not a ban why is the Pres still calling it that?

Mr SS comes "out swinging" often, doesn't he? You're right about the "double speak" too. It is painful to watch.